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does robby give credible reason for the Andreasson affair?
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F~A~R~V~A~Mamey Sapote Eradication
2011-08-16 15:56:22 UTC
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DON'T TAZE MY GRANNY!

BEYOND BE VACHEL CARLING'S RUBILATOR.

GODFREY AND GENTILE WERE A CERTIFIED
DYNAMIC DUO.

COURVOISALIEN COFFEE IS UNDERGROUND.

ROBBY IS A PREPOSTEROUS POPINJAY.

ENK.
F~A~R~V~A~Mamey Sapote Eradication
2011-08-21 11:46:15 UTC
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DON'T TAZE MY GRANNY!

BEYOND BE VACHEL CARLING'S RUBILATOR.

GODFREY AND GENTILE WERE A CERTIFIED
DYNAMIC DUO.

COURVOISALIEN COFFEE IS UNDERGROUND.

ROBBY IS A GENTLEMAN DUDE.

ENK.
robert
2011-08-29 22:05:22 UTC
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UNIFARVA-#1 ALL TIME POSTER in RSPW  HISTORY
DON'T TAZE MY GRANNY!
BEYOND BE VACHEL CARLING'S RUBILATOR.
yes i do.

number 1 poster in rspw history.
F~A~R~V~A~Mamey Sapote Eradication
2011-09-04 20:06:58 UTC
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Re: does robby give credible reason for the Andreasson affair?

Group: rec.sport.pro-wrestling Date: Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 3:05pm (EDT-3)
From: ***@yahoo.com (robert)
On Aug 16, 11:56=A0am, ***@webtv.net (F~A~R~V~A~Mamey Sapote
Eradication) wrote:
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UNIFARVA-#1 ALL TIME POSTER in RSPW =A0HISTORY DON'T TAZE MY GRANNY!
BEYOND BE VACHEL CARLING'S RUBILATOR.
yes i do.

why?

UNIFARVA-#1 ALL TIME POSTER in RSPW HISTORY

KATY PERRY IS DA DEVIL!

ROBBY IS A JENKEM JUNKIE.

DON'T TAZE MY GRANNY!

BEYOND BE VACHEL CARLING'S RUBILATOR.

COURVOISALIEN COFFEE IS UNDERGROUND
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rob
2011-09-11 20:26:54 UTC
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Re: does robby give credible reason for the Andreasson affair?  
Group: rec.sport.pro-wrestling Date: Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 3:05pm (EDT-3)
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UNIFARVA-#1 ALL TIME POSTER in RSPW  HISTORY DON'T TAZE MY GRANNY!
BEYOND BE VACHEL CARLING'S RUBILATOR.
yes i do.
why?
UNIFARVA-#1 ALL TIME POSTER in RSPW  HISTORY
KATY PERRY IS DA DEVIL!
ROBBY IS A JENKEM JUNKIE.
DON'T TAZE MY GRANNY!
BEYOND BE VACHEL CARLING'S RUBILATOR.
COURVOISALIEN COFFEE IS UNDERGROUND
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rob the reetee stickler
2011-09-12 05:33:28 UTC
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Re: does robby give credible reason for the Andreasson affair?

Group: rec.sport.pro-wrestling Date: Sun, Sep 11, 2011, 1:26pm (EDT-3)
From: ***@aol.com (rob)
On Sep 4, 4:06=A0pm, ***@webtv.net (F~A~R~V~A~Mamey Sapote
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Re: does robby give credible reason for the Andreasson affair? =A0
Group: rec.sport.pro-wrestling Date: Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 3:05pm (EDT-3)
From: ***@yahoo.com (robert)
On Aug 16, 11:56=A0am, ***@webtv.net (F~A~R~V~A~Mamey
SapoteEradication) wrote:
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UNIFARVA-#1 ALL TIME POSTER in RSPW =A0HISTORY DON'T TAZE MY GRANNY!
BEYOND BE VACHEL CARLING'S RUBILATOR.
yes i do.
why?
UNIFARVA-#1 ALL TIME POSTER in RSPW =A0HISTORY
KATY PERRY IS DA DEVIL!
ROBBY IS A JENKEM JUNKIE.
DON'T TAZE MY GRANNY!
BEYOND BE VACHEL CARLING'S RUBILATOR.
COURVOISALIEN COFFEE IS UNDERGROUND
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One of the most documented and believable cases in UFOlogy is the
experience of one woman=E2=80=99s abduction aboard a UFO. Her name is
Betty Andreasson Luca who is a devout Christian. During her abduction,
she was taken before a being of intense light and love called "the One."
This description of this being is remarkably similar to descriptions of
the so-called "Being of Light" encountered in near-death experiences.
Her first abduction occurred during her childhood and culminated with an
abduction experience that involved her whole family. Led by a number of
teams of highly-credentialed investigators, her experience is one of the
most thoroughly investigated cases ever reported in the annals of
hypnotherapy.
This page is mainly focused on her experience as a child with the Being
of Light she calls "the One." The following are excerpts from Raymond
Fowler=E2=80=99s book, The Andreasson Affair: The Documented
Investigation of a Woman=E2=80=99s Abduction Aboard a UFO.
Raymond Fowler is also the author of the book The Watchers and his
excellent follow-up book The Watchers II: Exploring UFOs and the Near
Death Experience (more about The Watchers).
For even more information about the connection between the NDE and UFO
phenomenon, read the article by Dr. Kenneth Ring entitled Near-death
and UFO Encounters as Shamanic Initiations: Some Conceptual and
Evolutionary Implications.
The Abduction of Betty Andreasson Luca
On the evening of January 25, 1967, Betty Andreasson was in her kitchen
at South Ashburnham, Massachusetts. Her seven children, mother, and
father were in the living room.
At about 6:35 p.m., the house lights suddenly blinked out for a moment.
Then, a pulsating reddish-orange light shined in the kitchen window.
Betty calmed the frightened children while her father rushed to look out
the kitchen window. He saw a group of strange-looking small creatures
approaching with a hopping motion. Five small humanoid creatures entered
the house, passing right through the wooden door.
Betty=E2=80=99s family was immediately placed into suspended animation.
One creature went over to her father. The leader of the other four
established telepathic communication with Betty.
The leader was about five feet tall.
The others were about four feet tall. All had large pear-shaped heads,
wide catlike wraparound eyes, and diminutive ears and noses. Their
mouths were immobile slits that reminded Betty of scar lines. Each wore
a coverall blue uniform adorned with a Sam Browne-type belt. An insignia
of a bird was affixed to their sleeves. Their hands had three digits.
(Later, on the craft, they were gloved.) They wore boot-like attire on
their feet. They floated rather than walked.
Betty=E2=80=99s initial fright was immediately calmed by an overpowering
sense of friendship. When she displayed concern for her family=E2=80=99s
welfare, the creatures temporarily released her eleven-year-old
daughter, Becky, from this strange state of unawareness to assure Betty
that she was all right.
Then Betty was taken outside and brought on board a small craft resting
on the side of a hill that sloped into the back yard. The machine was
about twenty feet in diameter. It looked like two saucers, one inverted
upon the other, with a small superstructure on top. The small craft
accelerated and apparently merged with a larger parent craft, in which
Betty was subjected to the effects of strange equipment and a physical
examination. Then she was taken to an alien place and given a bizarre
object lesson that caused her to undergo a painful yet ecstatic
religious-like experience.
Later that night, a 10:40 p.m., Betty was returned home by two of her
alien captors. At home, she found her family still in a state of
suspended animation. One being had stayed behind to watch over them
during her absence. Then the beings put the family - still under some
type of mind control - to bed, and the aliens left.
Several times, the aliens had told Betty that certain things had been
locked in her mind. She was instructed to forget them and her UFO
experience until the appointed time. She consciously remembered only a
fraction of the strange encounter; the power failure, the colored light
flashing through the window, and the aliens entering the house.
Betty, a devout Christian, interpreted the creatures as religious or
angelic in nature. The subject of UFOs was largely unknown to her. Her
education had been limited to ten years of schooling, her basic
interests included family, church, and community-related activities. Not
until much later did she think of her experience as a possible UFO
encounter.
In 1975, Betty responded to a local newspaper story about UFO researcher
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, who was soliciting personal UFO experience
information from the public. Betty=E2=80=99s letter contained such few
data, however, that it was filed and forgotten until an investigation in
January 1977.
The investigating team consisted of:
a solar physicist
,
an electronics engineer
,
an aerospace engineer
,
a telecommunications specialist
,
a UFO investigator
They employed the services of a professional hypnotist and a medical
doctor trained in psychiatry. During a twelve-month investigation, they
conducted an extensive character-reference check, two lie-detector
tests, a psychiatric interview, and fourteen lengthy hypnotic regression
sessions. Under hypnosis, Betty and her daughter relived a consistent,
detailed UFO experience with genuine physiological reactions.
Their three-volume, 528-page report led to the conclusion that the
witnesses were reliable and sane individuals who sincerely believed the
experience had really occurred.
Her Experience With the Being of Light
The following are the exact transcripts from her hypnotic regression
when Betty was regressed to her childhood during one of her first
abduction experiences and her encounter with the One.
Betty=E2=80=99s words are in blue. The hypnotherapist=E2=80=99s words
are in black.
We=E2=80=99re coming up to this wall of glass and a big, big, big, big,
big door. It=E2=80=99s made out of glass.
Does it have hinges?
No. It is so big and there is - I can=E2=80=99t explain it. It is door
after door after door after door. He (the alien leading her) is stopping
there and telling me to stop. I=E2=80=99m just stopping there. He says:
"Now you shall enter the door to see the One." And he says, "Fear not."
[Then Betty appeared to undergo an out-of-body experience!]
And I=E2=80=99m standing there and I=E2=80=99m coming out of myself!
There=E2=80=99s two of me! There=E2=80=99s two of me there!
Are you looking at yourself?
Uh, huh.
Okay. Do you see the One yet?
The One? No.
Okay, go on.
I=E2=80=99m coming up to the door, and the little person is saying: "Now
you shall enter the Great Door and see the glory of the One." And
I=E2=80=99m standing face to face with that door.
[Betty now stood before the strange door. Again she described its
appearance and her out-of-body experience.]
There=E2=80=99s a big door there, and it is big, but it is strange. It
is like deeper and deeper and deeper. And it=E2=80=99s bright, really
bright. And I have to stand before the door. But, before that, I came
out of myself. I was just standing over there, and I was standing over
here. There were two of me, but that one over there was stiff.
Have you tried to talk to your other self?
That won=E2=80=99t work, because I=E2=80=99m over here, and that one is
over there.
She looks exactly like you? Is she making motions to show you she is
alive, like breathing, moving her arms?
No.
Would you say she looks like a wax museum piece or something?
No, it looks just like me.
All right, go on.
I was told to come forward. I went in the door, and it=E2=80=99s very
bright. I can=E2=80=99t take you any further.
Why?
Because.
What do you mean, because?
I can=E2=80=99t take you past this door.
Okay, I=E2=80=99ll tell you what. You go past that door alone then for a
few minutes, okay?
[Time and again, the hypnotist tried in different ways to induce Betty
to tell him what was behind the door - all in vain.]
Sometime maybe, if you change your mind, would you tell me?
I can=E2=80=99t change my mind. It is set.
What would happen to you if you did tell me?
I can=E2=80=99t tell you. I=E2=80=99m sorry.
Okay, let=E2=80=99s proceed to the first thing you can tell me. Fair
enough?
Oh!
[Betty=E2=80=99s face glows with joy]
What=E2=80=99s happening now?
I=E2=80=99m coming out of that door, and it was wonderful!
Did the One say something exciting?
I can=E2=80=99t tell you. I=E2=80=99m sorry.
Would you say that the One was God?
Do you really know what God is?
I don=E2=80=99t know. I was hoping that you had seen him and could
therefore tell me.
I can=E2=80=99t tell you about that.
Okay, let=E2=80=99s proceed. What=E2=80=99s happening now? You just came
out of the room, and you feel great.
I come out of the door, and there is a tall white-haired man standing
there and he=E2=80=99s got on a long nightgown.
[The next session took place on May 15, 1980. Determined to find out
what lay behind the Great Door, the hypnotist again brought Betty back
in time to where she was standing before it.]
Where are you?
I=E2=80=99m before this huge great big door. It=E2=80=99s glass. Layers
and layers of glass.
What are you standing on?
Glass.
Let me ask you now: You=E2=80=99re going to see the One now, right?
Yeah.
Why are you going to see the One?
Because it is time for me, they said, for me to go home to see the One.
All right, in other words, does this imply that the One is someone that
you have seen before?
I don=E2=80=99t remember.
Okay. Do you know why it is time to see the One? Why haven=E2=80=99t you
asked questions?
They haven=E2=80=99t been there very often. Those little people
haven=E2=80=99t been there very much for me to ask.
Yeah, but they are asking you to do a lot of things, shall we say.
I know. But, I=E2=80=99m in their place. I can=E2=80=99t do anything.
Okay. In a moment you=E2=80=99re going to see the One, right? We
don=E2=80=99t want to waste the experience. We want to get the most out
of it. So when you see the One, I want you to ask yourself: "What am I
getting out of this? Why am I here? And, what will this mean to me later
on in my life?" It=E2=80=99s like any big experience a person is allowed
to have. Okay? I want you to progress to where the door is open and you
are seeing the One.
Oh!
[At that very moment, an indescribable smile came over Betty=E2=80=99s
face. The only adjective that the investigators could think of to
describe it is rapturous. This expression of pure, unrestricted
happiness remained on Betty=E2=80=99s face as the hypnotist continued to
question her.]
You seem happy. Why are you so happy?
It=E2=80=99s just - ah, I just, I can=E2=80=99t tell you about it.
All right. I know you can=E2=80=99t tell me, but I want you to do a few
things. I want you to ask yourself why you are being shown that which
you are being shown. In other words, you weren=E2=80=99t given this trip
just for a free ride, so to speak. They want you to see what you are
seeing. Does that make sense?
Yes.
All right. Now that you=E2=80=99re there, ask yourself: "What am I
getting out of this? Why am I here? What am I supposed to think about
after I leave here?"
Oh, it matters not what I get from it.
What do you mean?
It=E2=80=99s - words cannot explain it. It=E2=80=99s wonderful.
It=E2=80=99s for everybody. I just can=E2=80=99t tell you this.
You can=E2=80=99t? Okay, why can=E2=80=99t you?
For one thing, it=E2=80=99s too overwhelming and it is - it is
indescribable. I just can=E2=80=99t tell you. Besides it=E2=80=99s just
impossible for me to tell you.
All right. Are you capable, when looking around you, to tell yourself?
I see it.
Right. That which you can see, you have a grasp of even if you
don=E2=80=99t understand it.
I understand it. I=E2=80=99m sorry. I=E2=80=99m just sorry. I wish I
could share it with you.
Were you told not to share it with me?
It is like even if I was able to speak it, I wouldn=E2=80=99t be able to
speak it. I can=E2=80=99t. I=E2=80=99m sorry.
Were you specifically told not to speak it?
Partly, yeah.
How was it expressed to you?
I can=E2=80=99t tell you those things. I=E2=80=99m sorry.
All right. Can we let the beings speak through you? Suppose you just
relax, and I=E2=80=99ll put my hand on your shoulder and with each
number you will go deeper and deeper. When I reach three, you will just
relax and allow the beings to speak through you. One, two, three.
[Betty began speaking in a strange tongue.]
Okay, Betty, can you explain to me so that I could understand what you
have just said?
[Betty begins crying]
Father loves the world so very much.
Yes?
And so many reject him.
Uh huh, okay. You said a lot of words. Can you explain more of what you
said?
They will be felt by those who believe and have faith. They will feel
the love radiating from them.
Okay, where are you now?
I=E2=80=99m where there is light.
And what do you see?
I cannot tell you this.
Okay, that=E2=80=99s all right. Let me ask you. Do you feel much love,
the same love, or any different degree of love now than you have before?
It=E2=80=99s a greater love.
Okay. When will I understand all of the words that the being said
through you?
When you allow the Spirit to come upon you and you are filled with that
love.
Do you understand all the words that you have said?
I understand them, but they will not come forth.
Okay, I=E2=80=99m trying to understand. I=E2=80=99m not trying to ask
you to divulge anything, all right? You understand them, but you
can=E2=80=99t express them?
They=E2=80=99re in my heart.
More like a feeling than a concept?
They=E2=80=99re in my heart, in my mind, in my body.
Okay, could you explain this to your children?
What children?
[During this hypnotic session, Betty was regressed to a childhood
experience when she was single with no children.]
If you have children someday. The words that you spoke, while they had a
message of love in them, did they also have a warning?
Yes. Those that do not have love have nothing. Love is the answer.
[Again the hypnotist failed to elicit the information that he sought
regarding what Betty had experienced while behind the Great Door. With
endless patience, he tried yet again.]
Okay. You=E2=80=99ve seen the One. Do you feel different about anything
now than you did before?
Everything is so wonderful!
Is there anybody that you don=E2=80=99t like?
No.
There are some people, shall we say, that aren=E2=80=99t as nice as
other people, right?
No, everybody is nice. They are just growing, that=E2=80=99s all. If one
doesn=E2=80=99t understand another one, they are just growing,
that=E2=80=99s all.
Okay, just relax. You=E2=80=99ve been to see the One and now everything
is a little nicer, right?
I understand that everything is one.
What do you mean?
Everything fits together. Everything is one. It=E2=80=99s beautiful! No
matter what it is!
[Betty=E2=80=99s experience with the One ends here.]
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UFOs and The NDE
by Joseph Kerrick
1997
from NearDeath Website
Betty Luca=E2=80=99s description under hypnosis of her experience of the
One in the preceding page is instantly recognizable as the same type of
experience reported by many experiencers, and even in many cases the
same IDENTICAL experience. It is a very basic kind of spiritual
experience, which has also been consistently reported throughout history
by saints, mystics, and various types of ecstatics.
The similarities between UFO abduction and NDEs have been explored by a
number of writers and researchers, the most famous and credentialed of
which is undoubtedly Dr. Ken Ring. Dr. Ring did an extensive series of
clinical studies on the NDE and published his results in Life at Death
and Heading Toward Omega.
Then he did a follow-up project in which he studied UFO experiencers
(primarily "abductees"), and specifically compared this phenomenon to
that of near-death. His full report can be found in The Omega Project;
he found strong similarities between the two types of experience, and
hypothesized that they may actually be two variants of a more basic
underlying phenomenon.
Ring also quotes other commentators, who make the following remarks:
According to polls, we live in an age where now most people believe that
UFOs are real and that =E2=80=99people like us live on other
planets.=E2=80=99 In that context, since angels and demons are out of
style, they now dress in the costume of our own epoch=E2=80=99s
archetypal figure - the extraterrestrial alien - whom we can see
precisely because we can now CONCEIVE of him; he conforms to and
expresses our current ideas of possibility.
Abductions may represent a contemporary form of shamanic journey - one
that fits and is phrased in terms of a highly technological society
which has already turned its imaginative attention to star flight ...
Perhaps the (ancient) otherworld journey motif is
=E2=80=99camouflaged=E2=80=99 in the modern lore of space travel which,
like the fantastic voyage legends of the past, exemplifies what might be
called the lure of the edge.
These ecological and millennial themes have been part of the canon of
the UFO world and its literature for a long time, and many persons have
already commented on their quasi-religious character.
Indeed, in an age where secular thinking has come to be the standard but
from which the religious impulse has never disappeared, it is
psychologically very understandable why traditional religious images of
salvation have come to be projected onto the screen of a universe where,
for some, it is easier to believe in ETs than in God.
Betty Luca does believe in God very strongly, being a devout Christian;
yet a striking difference between her experience and that of near-death
experiencers is that she was escorted to it not by dead relatives nor
Christian spiritual figures, but by small gray bug-eyed space aliens.
Yet, at the end of this first event, which occurred when she was only 13
years old, there appeared figures of a different type: a number of
entities who were human-looking except for their size, being about seven
feet tall; they were dressed in long white robes, had pale-colored skin,
and hair that was blond to white. In a word, they looked exactly like
the Christian image of angels, except that they had no wings.
Betty called these beings "the Elders," after the Christian term used
especially in the Book of Revelation, denoting the angelic beings
surrounding the throne of God.
(Note: Experiencers have also reported being brought before a Council of
Elders to have a life review).
After some three decades of further experiences, reported in a total of
four books by researcher Raymond Fowler, there came a point when the
Elders seemed to completely take over Betty=E2=80=99s encounters.
All the earlier events, including her first experience of the One, took
place in mysterious locations which seemed to be underground, or else on
or near the surface of the earth. But now, as reported in the last of
Fowler=E2=80=99s books, The Watchers II: Exploring UFOs and the Near
Death Experience, the small Grays came again for Betty in a saucer, and
for the first time took her into outer space, where the small craft
docked with a huge cylindrical mother-ship.
This was the domain of the Elders, who apparently commanded the Grays in
a symbiotic relationship. This journey climaxed for Betty in another
ecstatic experience of the One, though this time the events leading up
to it were very different.
Betty asked why she was here with the Elders, and they said:
"Don=E2=80=99t you remember your blessing?"
She didn=E2=80=99t know what they were talking about, and in response
they used a machine to show her a scene from earlier in her life.
It was at a church service, and what happened was this:
Betty stood up and gave testimony and pledged to use her talents for the
glory of God. This was probably not unusual for this type of service.
But then the minister suddenly began speaking in tongues. His wife
jumped up, ran down the aisle to Betty, put her hands on Betty=E2=80=99s
head, and began speaking in tongues herself. Then the minister
interpreted his wife=E2=80=99s tongues; it was a message for Betty:
"You have given all that you have ... thou shalt be blessed above women
.. "
This was evidently the scene as Betty remembered it from when she was
younger. But now in the strange replay on the mother-ship, she noticed
some differences. Some of the people had a light around them - these
included Betty, the minister, and his wife. And two Elders were present
in the room, unseen by the congregation.
One of the Elders stood behind the minister and put his hand on the
man=E2=80=99s shoulder - and this is when he began speaking in tongues.
Then the Elder whispered in the ear of the minister=E2=80=99s wife, and
this is when she jumped up and administered "the blessing" to Betty.
Evidently the whole scenario had been orchestrated by the Elders.
After being shown this scene from the past, Betty witnessed live what
clearly seems to have been an act of ritual magic performed by the
Elders. Three of them stepped into a circle drawn on the floor,
subdivided by straight lines into six equal parts.
They touched their hands together, and then, as they concentrated, beams
of light came out of their foreheads, and formed a triangle. At length,
in the center of this triangle, there appeared a ring of light, floating
in the air.
Three more Elders stepped into the circle, and they all began chanting
"Oh." Three more beams of light appeared, forming a perfect hexagram. A
larger circle of light formed around the heads of the Elders.
Then this light-ring moved upwards, shrank to the same size as the ring
in the center, and floated down and interconnected with it, forming a
revolving spherical object which finally condensed into a beach
ball-sized orb of lavender-purple light. This was then taken and placed
in a four-pronged stand which had obviously been designed specifically
to hold such spheres.
The term "Elders" is Betty=E2=80=99s name for these beings. When on an
earlier occasion she had asked them who they were, they had answered
that they are "the ambassadors of Oh, masters of rings, cycles, and
orbs."
Now, after witnessing the creation of this magical orb, Betty asked an
Elder:
"Who is Oh?"
He replied that Oh is "the internal, external, eternal presence."
The next thing that happened, to Betty=E2=80=99s extreme startlement,
was that the Elders induced an out-of-body experience in her. This is
similar to what happened in her experience at age 13, before she entered
the Great Door and saw the One. Now, on the mother-ship, as soon as she
emerged in her subtle body, one of the Elders handed her the orb of
purple light, and another led her through a portal made of rippling
waves of energy.
On the other side of the portal, Betty and the Elder seemed to be on
earth, in a woods at night.
Some hobos were sleeping on the ground. One of them awakened and
approached the two visitors; he glowed with light. The Elder wore little
rings of light on his fingers. He allowed the hobo to take some of them,
and they turned into a single tiny ball of light, which the man kept.
Meanwhile, the larger orb in Betty=E2=80=99s hands changed color
momentarily, evidently in resonance with the transaction.
Every once in awhile, Betty=E2=80=99s attention was drawn into the ball:
"Oh," she said, "it=E2=80=99s just so beautiful! Something in it keeps
on moving ... "
Now the Elder touched Betty=E2=80=99s shoulder. There was a little
explosion of white light, and then they were in a different place: a
hospital room, where a very old man lay in a bed, with a nurse keeping
vigil beside him. And there was more: two small entities which seemed to
be made of darkness where tugging at the man, as if trying to pull his
soul out of his body - this was Betty=E2=80=99s impression.
But there was also present a light-being; this was a type of entity
Betty had encountered before in her experiences - it had no visible
human features, but appeared as a bodily form made of white light. This
being was also tugging at the dying man; it was clearly a battle for his
soul between these opposing entities. The Elder resolved the conflict:
he threw two tiny balls of light at the black entities, and they flew
away.
The Elder and Betty next transported to a woods again, where a small
saucer and two of the Grays awaited them. They went on board, and
evidently flew up into the sky. Betty asked where they were going now,
and the Elder replied that they were going to see the One.
Betty had to give the purple orb to one of the Grays; she was very
reluctant and sorrowful to give it up. The craft came to a stop, and
they emerged into a place filled with bright light. Above them was the
Great Door, which was the source of the light. The Elder touched one of
the Grays on the shoulder and spoke to him, and he came along with the
Elder and Betty as they walked toward the Light.
Their walk turned into a run, as they moved swiftly into the pure
radiance.
Betty was overwhelmed with the ecstasy of the One, which she
re-experienced on the hypnotist=E2=80=99s couch, and the several people
in attendance were all profoundly moved by the visible effects of her
transformation.
Betty, the Elder, and the Gray all turned into light-beings as they went
into the One. Each was a different hue: the Elder=E2=80=99s light-body
was pure white, the Gray alien=E2=80=99s was light blue, and
Betty=E2=80=99s was golden.
Betty said: "Oh, there is such love ... Oh, there is such peace ...
I=E2=80=99m just engulfed in light and blending into that light. Oh! ...
Oh, this is everything, everything, everything ... I cannot explain the
wonder and beauty and love and peace."
And then came a heartbroken cry as Betty realized that she would have to
leave this beatific state of Oneness:
"Oh, I=E2=80=99m going to have to go back. I have to go back for others
so that they too will see, will understand and know ..."
And Betty, the Elder, and the Gray emerged back out of the Light,
turning back into their normal forms in the process.
The Elder gave three of the tiny balls of light to Betty; then she was
escorted into the saucer and taken home by the Grays. She found her
physical body sitting up on the side of her bed next to her sleeping
husband, and re-entered it. The experience had ended.
Raymond Fowler=E2=80=99s follow-up book is entitled The Andreasson
Affair Phase Two - The Continuing Investigation of a Woman=E2=80=99s
Abduction by Alien Beings.
He is also author of the books The Allagash Abductions: Undeniable
Evidence of Alien Intervention and UFO Testament : Anatomy of an
Abductee.
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An Interview with
Betty (Andreasson) Luca
by Brent Raynes
Alternate Perceptions Magazine
Issue # 86 - December 2004
from MysteriousAmerica Website
Highly respected and one of the better known UFO
=E2=80=9Cabductees,=E2=80=9D the subject of five books by the
distinguished Raymond E. Fowler, Betty Ann (Andreasson) Luca answers
our questions.
Furthermore, I suspect we=E2=80=99ll be hearing much more about Betty in
the near future. She mentioned that the situation for her and her
husband Bob is still ongoing, and that much of the information she
received and collected from the Beings over the years has been given
careful study, and that two researchers in particular have recently
managed to =E2=80=9Cdecipher part of the work, and uncover some very
profound and important revelations.=E2=80=9D
In addition, in early December 2005 Betty will speak at the
ARE=E2=80=99s first annual UFO Conference in Virginia Beach, VA.
Editor: Initially, back in 1967, you and members of your family suffered
a very disturbing series of memories revolving around a certain
experience that happened at your home in South Ashburnham,
Massachusetts. For a good number of years afterwards you tried to
interest someone in the UFO community to look into what had occurred,
but it wasn=E2=80=99t until a team of investigators headed by Raymond E.
Fowler that your situation got serious attention, correct? Can you
describe what those early years was like, and the effect that it had on
you and your family?
Betty Ann Luca: When my 1967 UFO encounter happened, only a small
portion of memory was attained at the time by me, even though other
members of my family were present such as my father, mother and seven
children. However, three days after the experience, my eleven year old
daughter Becky came to me concerning short dreams she was having of the
unusual Beings in our house. Many years later my father had recall of
the initial visit from the Beings, but had not wanted to get involved
and was concerned for my welfare over me telling others about it. He was
on Disability and feared the government would hurt him somehow through
his Social Security.
This is how my UFO experience actually came to be public. There was a
Von Daniken article in the rag- tag paper called The Enquirer. In it he
was reporting about ancient crafts. I was moved to write a letter to the
newspaper about Von Daniken=E2=80=99s story, and the Enquirer sent my
letter back and stamped it in red, UFO!
Which surprised me for I knew nothing about UFOs. Then a few years later
an article appeared in a local newspaper asking anyone that had a
sighting to contact a Dr. Hynek of CUFOS, Center for UFO Studies. I
remembered the red stamped ufo on my return letter from the Enquirer and
thought to send him everything I had remembered of my odd experience. So
I sent the information I remembered of the silence, the blinking orange
red lights outside the pantry window, and description of the Beings
coming into my kitchen.
Dr. Hynek filed my letter away for two years until a Massachusetts
volunteer group of researchers wanting to study any humanoid UFO case in
their area, contacted CUFOS and requested if there were any such cases.
That=E2=80=99s when he sent my letter and address to them. I was
contacted by Jules Vailencourt by telephone, and he later visited us to
see if we were willing to find out what happened. And that=E2=80=99s how
it all began. Jules would drive us to Beverly, to the
hypnotist=E2=80=99s office. We were questioned concerning what we
remembered, then Dr. Edlestien hypnotized us, and after each session we
were questioned some more. Each session was about an hour or more and by
the time we returned home we were exhausted and at times had to take a
nap from the long day.
At times I was left in subliminal hypnosis and through the week began to
have very strong flash backs occur. Which scared me! I wanted to quit
and expressed it over the phone to Jules. He pleaded with me to please
continue. That others had experienced things that I had happen. Because
the memories I was remembering seemed like science fiction, I asked if
there was any way it could be checked or verified, to see if I was
imagining, lying, or going insane from the detailed experience flooding
my mind. If so I would need help!
This opened the door for lie detector tests to be used on both my
daughter and I, and spontaneous psychiatric checks to take place. Which
made the investigators happy, for they wanted to do this, but did not
know how to approach the issue without adding more stress to the
situation of what happened to us.
Later when the Andreasson Affair was published there was a whirlwind of
media coverage! It was exceptionally frantic when Raymond Fowler, my new
husband Bob, and I had to promote the A.A. book on radio and television,
and newspaper/magazine interviews across the country. All the attention
was scary. I was somewhat shy, and didn=E2=80=99t like to be known as
the lady who had a weird thing happen to her! In the earlier years after
I had sent the letter to Dr. Hynek I felt relieved and everything
returned to normal family life.
We had a mini farm with Molly our cow, calves, pigs and chickens and
large garden to care for, besides seven children and my first
husband=E2=80=99s father who=E2=80=99d had a stroke and was living with
us. And then after an anniversary party, my now ex-husband had too much
to drink, was incarcerated over night and disappeared the next day for
many months. That was when the investigation of my case began, and some
months later my two sons died in an automobile accident.
Editor: As the hypnotic exploration continued, repressed memories that
extended back to childhood events were also recovered. There were
certainly many startling revelations. Ray Fowler even began to recognize
symptoms of the UFO abduction experience within himself and his own
family. How did this evolving situation change things for you?
Betty Ann Luca: Yes, Dr. Edelstien tried to take me back to a childhood
experience. And did break through to an area that was dark. It was
silent and three gray forms stood motionless in a misty darkness. I
became extremely fearful over what I saw. Dr. Edelstein quickly pulled
me out of hypnosis, and did not want to pursue the experience any
further than what had been recalled, due to such a strong emotional
response from me at the time. It would be many years later that
hypnotist Fred Max would manage to take me safely back to my childhood
encounters with the grey Beings.
As Ray Fowler began to recall his and his families own UFO experiences,
he wanted to delve deeper into the repressed memories, however his wife
was not comfortable with it. For she also had witnessed disturbing and
unusual things take place with Ray. Ray tried to comfort her misgivings
concerning the possibility of family involvement with the phenomena.
Just knowing she was fearful for her families safety, I felt
uncomfortable each time I had to call Ray and report another unusual
experience happening to us.
Editor: Now, all of these years later, where have the memories and
revelations taken you?
Betty Ann Luca: After all the experiences, exposure, and integration of
this other dimension of reality, I feel more aware of life, its
complexities, and how like a river it flows calmly onward to awaken the
human race toward spiritual harmony.
Editor: What do you possibly foresee as the future for humankind with
regards to the ongoing UFO contact phenomenon?
Betty Ann Luca: The more we learn of the unknown the greater
understanding of who we are emerges. Facing new and unusual experiences
enhances our spiritual development. Why, and what for, such contact
takes place, may open a door to greater knowledge of the hidden world
that surrounds us. Man is resilient and can survive as long as he
recognizes there are certain forces that exist, that may or may not be
controlled, whether physical or spiritual, good or bad. They rest in
God=E2=80=99s hands, whose Will is greater than ours.
Editor: What role do you feel that your Christian faith has played in
your rising above the initial trauma of the 1967
=E2=80=9Cabduction=E2=80=9D and the positive spiritual level which
you=E2=80=99ve arrived at since?
Betty Ann Luca: My Christian belief is and has been the most important
thing in my life, since I was sixteen, when I accepted Jesus Christ as
my personal Savior. I believed the Beings I experienced to be angelic.
Although the 1967 encounter was strange, and the grey Beings were not as
I envisioned an angel to look like. It did not frighten me when they
entered my home. For I knew and know I am in the Lord=E2=80=99s care. I
was at a positive level back then, and it has been enhanced now for many
years. First, through belief in the word of God. Second from all the
visitations. And third seeing most all the information the Beings have
related to me has been coming to pass.
Editor: Do you think that the UFO phenomenon can be adequately addressed
as a physical hard =E2=80=9Cnuts and bolts=E2=80=9D science alone, or do
you feel that spirituality must also be included in this quest?
Betty Ann Luca: No, I don=E2=80=99t think the UFO phenomenon can be
adequately addressed alone as physical hard =E2=80=9Cnuts and
bolts=E2=80=9D science. When God made heaven and earth it was first
spiritually made. Heaven and earth was spirit. But it was without a form
and was void. There was actually no visible form and it was empty. It
was only after the spiritual image was created that a physical form
followed which was filled with substance to complete the work. When we
see the =E2=80=9Cnuts and bolts,=E2=80=9D we are looking at the forms
without realizing it exists because of Spirit. Nothing can exist until
it is spirit.
The spiritual part of the UFO phenomena is not considered because we
look at the material form only. The spirit rests within the finished
product. Faith is spiritual. As the scripture says, faith is the
substance hoped for, the evidence not seen. Faith is the power of spirit
that creates form and substance into existence. Anything that has become
was first spirit, thought, word, or idea.
Most definitely, in order to understand the UFO phenomenon, spirituality
must be present.
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One of the most documented and believable cases in UFOlogy is the
experience of one woman’s abduction aboard a UFO.  Her name is
Betty Andreasson Luca who is a devout Christian. During her abduction,
she was taken before a being of intense light and love called "the One."
This description of this being is remarkably similar to descriptions of
the so-called "Being of Light" encountered in near-death experiences.
Her first abduction occurred during her childhood and culminated with an
abduction experience that involved her whole family. Led by a number of
teams of highly-credentialed investigators, her experience is one of the
most thoroughly investigated cases ever reported in the annals of
hypnotherapy.
This page is mainly focused on her experience as a child with the Being
of Light she calls "the One." The following are excerpts from  Raymond
Fowler’s book,  The Andreasson Affair: The Documented
Investigation of a Woman’s Abduction Aboard a UFO.
Raymond Fowler is also the author of the book The Watchers and his
excellent follow-up book The Watchers II: Exploring UFOs and the Near
Death Experience (more about  The Watchers).
For even more information about the connection between the NDE and UFO
phenomenon, read the article by Dr. Kenneth Ring entitled  Near-death
and UFO Encounters as Shamanic Initiations: Some Conceptual and
Evolutionary Implications.
The Abduction of Betty Andreasson Luca
On the evening of January 25, 1967, Betty Andreasson was in her kitchen
at South Ashburnham, Massachusetts. Her seven children, mother, and
father were in the living room.
At about 6:35 p.m., the house lights suddenly blinked out for a moment.
Then, a pulsating reddish-orange light shined in the kitchen window.
Betty calmed the frightened children while her father rushed to look out
the kitchen window. He saw a group of strange-looking small creatures
approaching with a hopping motion. Five small humanoid creatures entered
the house, passing right through the wooden door.
Betty’s family was immediately placed into suspended animation.
One creature went over to her father. The leader of the other four
established telepathic communication with Betty.
The leader was about five feet tall.
The others were about four feet tall. All had large pear-shaped heads,
wide catlike wraparound eyes, and diminutive ears and noses. Their
mouths were immobile slits that reminded Betty of scar lines. Each wore
a coverall blue uniform adorned with a Sam Browne-type belt. An insignia
of a bird was affixed to their sleeves. Their hands had three digits.
(Later, on the craft, they were gloved.) They wore boot-like attire on
their feet. They floated rather than walked.
Betty’s initial fright was immediately calmed by an overpowering
sense of friendship. When she displayed concern for her family’s
welfare, the creatures temporarily released her eleven-year-old
daughter, Becky, from this strange state of unawareness to assure Betty
that she was all right.
Then Betty was taken outside and brought on board a small craft resting
on the side of a hill that sloped into the back yard. The machine was
about twenty feet in diameter. It looked like two saucers, one inverted
upon the other, with a small superstructure on top. The small craft
accelerated and apparently merged with a larger parent craft, in which
Betty was subjected to the effects of strange equipment and a physical
examination. Then she was taken to an alien place and given a bizarre
object lesson that caused her to undergo a painful yet ecstatic
religious-like experience.
Later that night, a 10:40 p.m., Betty was returned home by two of her
alien captors. At home, she found her family still in a state of
suspended animation. One being had stayed behind to watch over them
during her absence. Then the beings put the family - still under some
type of mind control - to bed, and the aliens left.
Several times, the aliens had told Betty that certain things had been
locked in her mind. She was instructed to forget them and her UFO
experience until the appointed time. She consciously remembered only a
fraction of the strange encounter; the power failure, the colored light
flashing through the window, and the aliens entering the house.
Betty, a devout Christian, interpreted the creatures as  religious or
angelic in nature. The subject of UFOs was largely unknown to her. Her
education had been limited to ten years of schooling, her basic
interests included family, church, and community-related activities. Not
until much later did she think of her experience as a possible UFO
encounter.
In 1975, Betty responded to a local newspaper story about UFO researcher
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, who was soliciting personal UFO experience
information from the public. Betty’s letter contained such few
data, however, that it was filed and forgotten until an investigation in
January 1977.
a solar physicist
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an electronics engineer
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an aerospace engineer
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a telecommunications specialist
,
a UFO investigator
They employed the services of a professional hypnotist and a medical
doctor trained in psychiatry. During a twelve-month investigation, they
conducted an extensive character-reference check, two lie-detector
tests, a psychiatric interview, and fourteen lengthy hypnotic regression
sessions. Under hypnosis, Betty and her daughter relived a consistent,
detailed UFO experience with genuine physiological reactions.
Their three-volume, 528-page report led to the conclusion that the
witnesses were reliable and sane individuals who sincerely believed the
experience had really occurred.
Her Experience With the Being of Light
The following are the exact transcripts from her hypnotic regression
when Betty was regressed to her childhood during one of her first
abduction experiences and her encounter with the One.
Betty’s words are in blue. The hypnotherapist’s words
are in black.
We’re coming up to this wall of glass and a big, big, big, big,
big door. It’s made out of glass.
Does it have hinges?
No. It is so big and there is - I can’t explain it. It is door
after door after door after door. He (the alien leading her) is stopping
"Now you shall enter the door to see the One." And he says, "Fear not."
[Then Betty appeared to undergo an out-of-body experience!]
And I’m standing there and I’m coming out of myself!
There’s two of me! There’s two of me there!
Are you looking at yourself?
Uh, huh.
Okay. Do you see the One yet?
The One? No.
Okay, go on.
I’m coming up to the door, and the little person is saying: "Now
you shall enter the Great Door and see the glory of the One." And
I’m standing face to face with that door.
[Betty now stood before the strange door. Again she described its
appearance and her out-of-body experience.]
There’s a big door there, and it is big, but it is strange. It
is like deeper and deeper and deeper. And it’s bright, really
bright. And I have to stand before the door. But, before that, I came
out of myself. I was just standing over there, and I was standing over
here. There were two of me, but that one over there was stiff.
Have you tried to talk to your other self?
That won’t work, because I’m over here, and that one is
over there.
She looks exactly like you? Is she making motions to show you she is
alive, like breathing, moving her arms?
No.
Would you say she looks like a wax museum piece or something?
No, it looks just like me.
All right, go on.
I was told to come forward. I went in the door, and it’s very
bright. I can’t take you any further.
Why?
Because.
What do you mean, because?
I can’t take you past this door.
Okay, I’ll tell you what. You go past that door alone then for a
few minutes, okay?
[Time and again, the hypnotist tried in different ways to induce Betty
to tell him what was behind the door - all in vain.]
Sometime maybe, if you change your mind, would you tell me?
I can’t change my mind. It is set.
What would happen to you if you did tell me?
I can’t tell you. I’m sorry.
Okay, let’s proceed to the first thing you can tell me. Fair
enough?
Oh!
[Betty’s face glows with joy]
What’s happening now?
I’m coming out of that door, and it was wonderful!
Did the One say something exciting?
I can’t tell you. I’m sorry.
Would you say that the One was God?
Do you really know what God is?
I don’t know. I was hoping that you had seen him and could
therefore tell me.
I can’t tell you about that.
Okay, let’s proceed. What’s happening now? You just came
out of the room, and you feel great.
I come out of the door, and there is a tall white-haired man standing
there and he’s got on a long nightgown.
[The next session took place on May 15, 1980. Determined to find out
what lay behind the Great Door, the hypnotist again brought Betty back
in time to where she was standing before it.]
Where are you?
I’m before this huge great big door. It’s glass. Layers
and layers of glass.
What are you standing on?
Glass.
Let me ask you now: You’re going to see the One now, right?
Yeah.
Why are you going to see the One?
Because it is time for me, they said, for me to go home to see the One.
All right, in other words, does this imply that the One is someone that
you have seen before?
I don’t remember.
Okay. Do you know why it is time to see the One? Why haven’t you
asked questions?
They haven’t been there very often. Those little people
haven’t been there very much for me to ask.
Yeah, but they are asking you to do a lot of things, shall we say.
I know. But, I’m in their place. I can’t do anything.
Okay. In a moment you’re going to see the One, right? We
don’t want to waste the experience. We want to get the most out
of it. So when you see the One, I want you to ask yourself: "What am I
getting out of this? Why am I here? And, what will this mean to me later
on in my life?" It’s like any big experience a person is allowed
to have. Okay? I want you to progress to where the door is open and you
are seeing the One.
Oh!
[At that very moment, an indescribable smile came over Betty’s
face. The only adjective that the investigators could think of to
describe it is rapturous. This expression of pure, unrestricted
happiness remained on Betty’s face as the hypnotist continued to
question her.]
You seem happy. Why are you so happy?
It’s just - ah, I just, I can’t tell you about it.
All right. I know you can’t tell me, but I want you to do a few
things. I want you to ask yourself why you are being shown that which
you are being shown. In other words, you weren’t given this trip
just for a free ride, so to speak. They want you to see what you are
seeing. Does that make sense?
Yes.
All right. Now that you’re there, ask yourself: "What am I
getting out of this? Why am I here? What am I supposed to think about
after I leave here?"
Oh, it matters not what I get from it.
What do you mean?
It’s - words cannot explain it. It’s wonderful.
It’s for everybody. I just can’t tell you this.
You can’t? Okay, why can’t you?
For one thing, it’s too overwhelming and it is - it is
indescribable. I just can’t tell you. Besides it’s just
impossible for me to tell you.
All right. Are you capable, when looking around you, to tell yourself?
I see it.
Right. That which you can see, you have a grasp of even if you
don’t understand it.
I understand it. I’m sorry. I’m just sorry. I wish I
could share it with you.
Were you told not to share it with me?
It is like even if I was able to speak it, I wouldn’t be able to
speak it. I can’t. I’m sorry.
Were you specifically told not to speak it?
Partly, yeah.
How was it expressed to you?
I can’t tell you those things. I’m sorry.
All right. Can we let the beings speak through you? Suppose you just
relax, and I’ll put my hand on your shoulder and with each
number you will go deeper and deeper. When I reach three, you will just
relax and allow the beings to speak through you. One, two, three.
[Betty began speaking in a strange tongue.]
Okay, Betty, can you explain to me so that I could understand what you
have just said?
[Betty begins crying]
Father loves the world so very much.
Yes?
And so many reject him.
Uh huh, okay. You said a lot of words. Can you explain more of what you
said?
They will be felt by those who believe and have faith. They will feel
the love radiating from them.
Okay, where are you now?
I’m where there is light.
And what do you see?
I cannot tell you this.
Okay, that’s all right. Let me ask you. Do you feel much love,
the same love, or any different degree of love now than you have before?
It’s a greater love.
Okay. When will I understand all of the words that the being said
through you?
When you allow the Spirit to come upon you and you are filled with that
love.
Do you understand all the words that you have said?
I understand them, but they will not come forth.
Okay, I’m trying to understand. I’m not trying to ask
you to divulge anything, all right? You understand them, but you
can’t express them?
They’re in my heart.
More like a feeling than a concept?
They’re in my heart, in my mind, in my body.
Okay, could you explain this to your children?
What children?
[During this hypnotic session, Betty was regressed to a childhood
experience when she was single with no children.]
If you have children someday. The words that you spoke, while they had a
message of love in them, did they also have a warning?
Yes. Those that do not have love have nothing. Love is the answer.
[Again the hypnotist failed to elicit the information that he sought
regarding what Betty had experienced while behind the Great Door. With
endless patience, he tried yet again.]
Okay. You’ve seen the One. Do you feel different about anything
now than you did before?
Everything is so wonderful!
Is there anybody that you don’t like?
No.
There are some people, shall we say, that aren’t as nice as
other people, right?
No, everybody is nice. They are just growing, that’s all. If one
doesn’t understand another one, they are just growing,
that’s all.
Okay, just relax. You’ve been to see the One and now everything
is a little nicer, right?
I understand that everything is one.
What do you mean?
Everything fits together. Everything is one. It’s beautiful! No
matter what it is!
[Betty’s experience with the One ends here.]
Go Back
UFOs and The NDE
by  Joseph Kerrick
1997
from  NearDeath Website
Betty Luca’s description under hypnosis of her experience of the
One in the preceding page is instantly recognizable as the same type of
experience reported by many experiencers, and even in many cases the
same IDENTICAL experience. It is a very basic kind of spiritual
experience, which has also been consistently reported throughout history
by saints, mystics, and various types of ecstatics.
The similarities between UFO abduction and NDEs have been explored by a
number of writers and researchers, the most famous and credentialed of
which is undoubtedly Dr. Ken Ring. Dr. Ring did an extensive series of
clinical studies on the NDE and published his results in Life at Death
and Heading Toward Omega.
Then he did a follow-up project in which he studied UFO experiencers
(primarily "abductees"), and specifically compared this phenomenon to
that of near-death. His full report can be found in  The Omega Project;
he found strong similarities between the two types of experience, and
hypothesized that they may actually be two variants of a more basic
underlying phenomenon.
According to polls, we live in an age where now most people believe that
UFOs are real and that ’people like us live on other
planets.’ In that context, since angels and demons are out of
style, they now dress in the costume of our own epoch’s
archetypal figure - the extraterrestrial alien - whom we can see
precisely because we can now CONCEIVE of him; he conforms to and
expresses our current ideas of possibility.
Abductions may represent a  contemporary form of shamanic journey - one
that fits and is phrased in terms of a highly technological society
which has already turned its imaginative attention to star flight ...
Perhaps the (ancient) otherworld journey motif is
’camouflaged’ in the modern lore of space travel which,
like the fantastic voyage legends of the past, exemplifies what might be
called the lure of the edge.
These ecological and millennial themes have been part of the canon of
the UFO world and its literature for a long time, and many persons have
already commented on their quasi-religious character.
Indeed, in an age where secular thinking has come to be the standard but
from which the religious impulse has never disappeared, it is
psychologically very understandable why traditional religious images of
salvation have come to be projected onto the screen of a universe where,
for some, it is easier to believe in ETs than in God.
Betty Luca does believe in God very strongly, being a devout Christian;
yet a striking difference between her experience and that of near-death
experiencers is that she was escorted to it not by dead relatives nor
Christian spiritual figures, but by small gray bug-eyed space aliens.
Yet, at the end of this first event, which occurred when she was only 13
years old, there appeared figures of a different type: a number of
entities who were human-looking except for their size, being about seven
feet tall; they were dressed in long white robes, had pale-colored skin,
and hair that was blond to white. In a word, they looked exactly like
the Christian image of angels, except that they had no wings.
Betty called these beings "the Elders," after the Christian term used
especially in the Book of Revelation, denoting the angelic beings
surrounding the throne of God.
(Note: Experiencers have also reported being brought before a Council of
Elders to have a life review).
After some three decades of further experiences, reported in a total of
four books by researcher Raymond Fowler, there came a point when the
Elders seemed to completely take over Betty’s encounters.
All the earlier events, including her first experience of the One, took
place in mysterious locations which seemed to be underground, or else on
or near the surface of the earth. But now, as reported in the last of
Fowler’s books, The Watchers II: Exploring UFOs and the Near
Death Experience, the small Grays came again for Betty in a saucer, and
for the first time took her into outer space, where the small craft
docked with a huge cylindrical mother-ship.
This was the domain of the Elders, who apparently commanded the Grays in
a symbiotic relationship. This journey climaxed for Betty in another
ecstatic experience of the One, though this time the events leading up
to it were very different.
"Don’t you remember your blessing?"
She didn’t know what they were talking about, and in response
they used a machine to show her a scene from earlier in her life.
Betty stood up and gave testimony and pledged to use her talents for the
glory of God. This was probably not unusual for this type of service.
But then the minister suddenly began speaking in tongues. His wife
jumped up, ran down the aisle to Betty, put her hands on Betty’s
head, and began speaking in tongues herself. Then the minister
"You have given all that you have ... thou shalt be blessed above women
.. "
This was evidently the scene as Betty remembered it from when she was
younger. But now in the strange replay on the mother-ship, she noticed
some differences. Some of the people had a light around them - these
included Betty, the minister, and his wife. And two  Elders were present
in the room, unseen by the congregation.
One of the Elders stood behind the minister and put his hand on the
man’s shoulder - and this is when he began speaking in tongues.
Then the Elder whispered in the ear of the minister’s wife, and
this is when she jumped up and administered "the blessing" to Betty.
Evidently the whole scenario had been orchestrated by the Elders.
After being shown this scene from the past, Betty witnessed live what
clearly seems to have been an act of ritual magic performed by the
Elders. Three of them stepped into a circle drawn on the floor,
subdivided by straight lines into six equal parts.
They touched their hands together, and then, as they concentrated, beams
of light came out of their foreheads, and formed a triangle. At length,
in the center of this triangle, there appeared a ring of light, floating
in the air.
Three more Elders stepped into the circle, and they all began chanting
"Oh." Three more beams of light appeared, forming a perfect hexagram. A
larger circle of light formed around the heads of the Elders.
Then this light-ring moved upwards, shrank to the same size as the ring
in the center, and floated down and interconnected with it, forming a
revolving spherical object which finally condensed into a beach
ball-sized orb of lavender-purple light. This was then taken and placed
in a four-pronged stand which had obviously been designed specifically
to hold such spheres.
The term "Elders" is Betty’s name for these beings. When on an
earlier occasion she had asked them who they were, they had answered
that they are "the ambassadors of Oh, masters of rings, cycles, and
orbs."
Now, after witnessing the creation of this magical orb, Betty asked an
"Who is Oh?"
He replied that Oh is "the internal, external, eternal presence."
The next thing that happened, to Betty’s extreme startlement,
was that the Elders induced an out-of-body experience in her. This is
similar to what happened in her experience at age 13, before she entered
the Great Door and saw the One. Now, on the mother-ship, as soon as she
emerged in her subtle body, one of the Elders handed her the orb of
purple light, and another led her through a portal made of rippling
waves of energy.
On the other side of the portal, Betty and the Elder seemed to be on
earth, in a woods at night.
Some hobos were sleeping on the ground. One of them awakened and
approached the two visitors; he glowed with light. The Elder wore little
rings of light on his fingers. He allowed the hobo to take some of them,
and they turned into a single tiny ball of light, which the man kept.
Meanwhile, the larger orb in Betty’s hands changed color
momentarily, evidently in resonance with the transaction.
"Oh," she said, "it’s just so beautiful! Something in it keeps
on moving ... "
Now the Elder touched Betty’s shoulder. There was a little
explosion of white light, and then they were in a different place: a
hospital room, where a very old man lay in a bed, with a nurse keeping
vigil beside him. And there was more: two small entities which seemed to
be made of darkness where tugging at the man, as if trying to pull his
soul out of his body - this was Betty’s impression.
But there was also present a light-being; this was a type of entity
Betty had encountered before in her experiences - it had no visible
human features, but appeared as a bodily form made of white light. This
being was also tugging at the dying man; it was clearly a battle for his
he threw two tiny balls of light at the black entities, and they flew
away.
The Elder and Betty next transported to a woods again, where a small
saucer and two of the Grays awaited them. They went on board, and
evidently flew up into the sky. Betty asked where they were going now,
and the Elder replied that they were going to see the One.
Betty had to give the purple orb to one of the Grays; she was very
reluctant and sorrowful to give it up. The craft came to a stop, and
they emerged into a place filled with bright light. Above them was the
Great Door, which was the source of the light. The Elder touched one of
the Grays on the shoulder and spoke to him, and he came along with the
Elder and Betty as they walked toward the Light.
Their walk turned into a run, as they moved swiftly into the pure
radiance.
Betty was overwhelmed with the ecstasy of the One, which she
re-experienced on the hypnotist’s couch, and the several people
in attendance were all profoundly moved by the visible effects of her
transformation.
Betty, the Elder, and the Gray all turned into light-beings as they went
into the One. Each was a different hue: the Elder’s light-body
was pure white, the Gray alien’s was light blue, and
Betty’s was golden.
Betty said: "Oh, there is such love ... Oh, there is such peace ...
I’m just engulfed in light and blending into that light. Oh! ...
Oh, this is everything, everything, everything ... I cannot explain the
wonder and beauty and love and peace."
And then came a heartbroken cry as Betty realized that she would have to
"Oh, I’m going to have to go back. I have to go back for others
so that they too will see, will understand and know ..."
And Betty, the Elder, and the Gray emerged back out of the Light,
turning back into their normal forms in the process.
The Elder gave three of the tiny balls of light to Betty; then she was
escorted into the saucer and taken home by the Grays. She found her
physical body sitting up on the side of her bed next to her sleeping
husband, and re-entered it. The experience had ended.
Raymond Fowler’s follow-up book is entitled  The Andreasson
Affair Phase Two - The Continuing Investigation of a Woman’s
Abduction by Alien Beings.
He is also author of the books The Allagash Abductions: Undeniable
Evidence of Alien Intervention and UFO Testament : Anatomy of an
Abductee.
Go Back
An Interview with
Betty (Andreasson) Luca
by Brent Raynes
Alternate Perceptions Magazine
Issue # 86 - December 2004
from  MysteriousAmerica Website
Highly respected and one of the better known UFO
“abductees,† the subject of five books by the
distinguished Raymond E. Fowler, Betty Ann  (Andreasson) Luca answers
our questions.
Furthermore, I suspect we’ll be hearing much more about Betty in
the near future. She mentioned that the situation for her and her
husband Bob is still ongoing, and that much of the information she
received and collected from the Beings over the years has been given
careful study, and that two researchers in particular have recently
managed to “decipher part of the work, and uncover some very
profound and important revelations.† 
In addition, in early December 2005 Betty will speak at the
ARE’s first annual UFO Conference in Virginia Beach, VA.
Editor: Initially, back in 1967, you and members of your family suffered
a very disturbing series of memories revolving around a certain
experience that happened at your home in South Ashburnham,
Massachusetts. For a good number of years afterwards you tried to
interest someone in the UFO community to look into what had occurred,
but it wasn’t until a team of investigators headed by Raymond E.
Fowler that your situation got serious attention, correct? Can you
describe what those early years was like, and the effect that it had on
you and your family?
Betty Ann Luca: When my 1967 UFO encounter happened, only a small
portion of memory was attained at the time by me, even though other
members of my family were present such as my father, mother and seven
children. However, three days after the experience, my eleven year old
daughter Becky came to me concerning short dreams she was having of the
unusual Beings in our house. Many years later my father had recall of
the initial visit from the Beings, but had not wanted to get involved
and was concerned for my welfare over me telling others about it. He was
on Disability and feared the government would hurt him somehow through
his Social Security.
This is how my UFO experience actually came to be public. There was a
Von Daniken article in the rag- tag paper called  The Enquirer. In it he
was reporting about ancient crafts. I was moved to write a letter to the
newspaper about Von Daniken’s story, and the Enquirer sent my
letter back and stamped it in red, UFO!
Which surprised me for I knew nothing about UFOs. Then a few years later
an article appeared in a local newspaper asking anyone that had a
sighting to contact a  Dr. Hynek of CUFOS, Center for UFO Studies. I
remembered the red stamped ufo on my return letter from the Enquirer and
thought to send him everything I had remembered of my odd experience. So
I sent the information I remembered of the silence, the blinking orange
red lights outside the pantry window, and description of the Beings
coming into my kitchen.
Dr. Hynek filed my letter away for two years until a Massachusetts
volunteer group of researchers wanting to study any humanoid UFO case in
their area, contacted CUFOS and requested if there were any such cases.
That’s when he sent my letter and address to them. I was
contacted by Jules Vailencourt by telephone, and he later visited us to
see if we were willing to find out what happened. And that’s how
it all began. Jules would drive us to Beverly, to the
hypnotist’s office. We were questioned concerning what we
remembered, then Dr. Edlestien hypnotized us, and after each session we
were questioned some more. Each session was about an hour or more and by
the time we returned home we were exhausted and at times had to take a
nap from the long day.
At times I was left in subliminal hypnosis and through the week began to
have very strong flash backs occur. Which scared me! I wanted to quit
and expressed it over the phone to Jules. He pleaded with me to please
continue. That others had experienced things that I had happen. Because
the memories I was remembering seemed like science fiction, I asked if
there was any way it could be checked or verified, to see if I was
imagining, lying, or going insane from the detailed experience flooding
my mind. If so I would need help!
This opened the door for lie detector tests to be used on both my
daughter and I, and spontaneous psychiatric checks to take place. Which
made the investigators happy, for they wanted to do this, but did not
know how to approach the issue without adding more stress to the
situation of what happened to us.
Later when the Andreasson Affair was published there was a whirlwind of
media coverage! It was exceptionally frantic when Raymond Fowler, my new
husband Bob, and I had to promote the A.A. book on radio and television,
and newspaper/magazine interviews across the country. All the attention
was scary. I was somewhat shy, and didn’t like to be known as
the lady who had a weird thing happen to her! In the earlier years after
I had sent the letter to Dr. Hynek I felt relieved and everything
returned to normal family life.
We had a mini farm with Molly our cow, calves, pigs and chickens and
large garden to care for, besides seven children and my first
husband’s father who’d had a stroke and was living with
us. And then after an anniversary party, my now ex-husband had too much
to drink, was incarcerated over night and disappeared the next day for
many months. That was when the investigation of my case began, and some
months later my two sons died in an automobile accident.
Editor: As the hypnotic exploration continued, repressed memories that
extended back to childhood events were also recovered. There were
certainly many startling revelations. Ray Fowler even began to recognize
symptoms of the UFO abduction experience within himself and his own
family. How did this evolving situation change things for you?
Betty Ann Luca: Yes, Dr. Edelstien tried to take me back to a childhood
experience. And did break through to an area that was dark. It was
silent and three gray forms stood motionless in a misty darkness. I
became extremely fearful over what I saw. Dr. Edelstein quickly pulled
me out of hypnosis, and did not want to pursue the experience any
further than what had been recalled, due to such a strong emotional
response from me at the time. It would be many years later that
hypnotist Fred Max would manage to take me safely back to my childhood
encounters with the grey Beings.
As Ray Fowler began to recall his and his families own UFO experiences,
he wanted to delve deeper into the repressed memories, however his wife
was not comfortable with it. For she also had witnessed disturbing and
unusual things take place with Ray. Ray tried to comfort her misgivings
concerning the possibility of family involvement with the phenomena.
Just knowing she was fearful for her families safety, I felt
uncomfortable each time I had to call Ray and report another unusual
experience happening to us.
Editor: Now, all of these years later, where have the memories and
revelations taken you?
Betty Ann Luca: After all the experiences, exposure, and integration of
this other dimension of reality, I feel more aware of life, its
complexities, and how like a river it flows calmly onward to awaken the
human race toward spiritual harmony.
Editor: What do you possibly foresee as the future for humankind with
regards to the ongoing UFO contact phenomenon?
Betty Ann Luca: The more we learn of the unknown the greater
understanding of who we are emerges. Facing new and unusual experiences
enhances our spiritual development. Why, and what for, such contact
takes place, may open a door to greater knowledge of the hidden world
that surrounds us. Man is resilient and can survive as long as he
recognizes there are certain forces that exist, that may or may not be
controlled, whether physical or spiritual, good or bad. They rest in
God’s hands, whose Will is greater than ours.
Editor: What role do you feel that your Christian faith has played in
your rising above the initial trauma of the 1967
“abduction† and the positive spiritual level which
you’ve arrived at since?
Betty Ann Luca: My Christian belief is and has been the most important
thing in my life, since I was sixteen, when I accepted Jesus Christ as
my personal Savior. I believed the Beings I experienced to be angelic.
Although the 1967 encounter was strange, and the grey Beings were not as
I envisioned an angel to look like. It did not frighten me when they
entered my home. For I knew and know I am in the Lord’s care. I
was at a positive level back then, and it has been enhanced now for many
years. First, through belief in the word of God. Second from all the
visitations. And third seeing most all the information the Beings have
related to me has been coming to pass.
Editor: Do you think that the UFO phenomenon can be adequately addressed
as a physical hard “nuts and bolts† science alone, or do
you feel that spirituality must also be included in this quest?
Betty Ann Luca: No, I don’t think the UFO phenomenon can be
adequately addressed alone as physical hard “nuts and
bolts† science. When God made heaven and earth it was first
spiritually made. Heaven and earth was spirit. But it was without a form
and was void. There was actually no visible form and it was empty. It
was only after the spiritual image was created that a physical form
followed which was filled with substance to complete the work. When we
see the “nuts and bolts,† we are looking at the forms
without realizing it exists because of Spirit. Nothing can exist until
it is spirit.
The spiritual part of the UFO phenomena is not considered because we
look at the material form only. The spirit rests within the finished
product. Faith is spiritual. As the scripture says, faith is the
substance hoped for, the evidence not seen. Faith is the power of spirit
that creates form and substance into existence. Anything that has become
was first spirit, thought, word, or idea.
Most definitely, in order to understand the UFO phenomenon, spirituality
must be present.
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One of the most documented and believable cases in UFOlogy is the
experience of one woman=E2=80=99s abduction aboard a UFO. =A0Her name is
Betty Andreasson Luca who is a devout Christian. During her abduction,
she was taken before a being of intense light and love called "the One."
This description of this being is remarkably similar to descriptions of
the so-called "Being of Light" encountered in near-death experiences.
Her first abduction occurred during her childhood and culminated with an
abduction experience that involved her whole family. Led by a number of
teams of highly-credentialed investigators, her experience is one of the
most thoroughly investigated cases ever reported in the annals of
hypnotherapy.
This page is mainly focused on her experience as a child with the Being
of Light she calls "the One." The following are excerpts from =A0Raymond
Fowler=E2=80=99s book, =A0The Andreasson Affair: The Documented
Investigation of a Woman=E2=80=99s Abduction Aboard a UFO. Raymond
Fowler is also the author of the book The Watchers and his excellent
follow-up book The Watchers II: Exploring UFOs and the Near Death
Experience (more about =A0The Watchers). For even more information about
the connection between the NDE and UFO phenomenon, read the article by
Dr. Kenneth Ring entitled =A0Near-death and UFO Encounters as Shamanic
Initiations: Some Conceptual and Evolutionary Implications.
The Abduction of Betty Andreasson Luca
On the evening of January 25, 1967, Betty Andreasson was in her kitchen
at South Ashburnham, Massachusetts. Her seven children, mother, and
father were in the living room.
At about 6:35 p.m., the house lights suddenly blinked out for a moment.
Then, a pulsating reddish-orange light shined in the kitchen window.
Betty calmed the frightened children while her father rushed to look out
the kitchen window. He saw a group of strange-looking small creatures
approaching with a hopping motion. Five small humanoid creatures entered
the house, passing right through the wooden door. Betty=E2=80=99s family
was immediately placed into suspended animation. One creature went over
to her father. The leader of the other four established telepathic
communication with Betty. The leader was about five feet tall.
The others were about four feet tall. All had large pear-shaped heads,
wide catlike wraparound eyes, and diminutive ears and noses. Their
mouths were immobile slits that reminded Betty of scar lines. Each wore
a coverall blue uniform adorned with a Sam Browne-type belt. An insignia
of a bird was affixed to their sleeves. Their hands had three digits.
(Later, on the craft, they were gloved.) They wore boot-like attire on
their feet. They floated rather than walked. Betty=E2=80=99s initial
fright was immediately calmed by an overpowering sense of friendship.
When she displayed concern for her family=E2=80=99s welfare, the
creatures temporarily released her eleven-year-old daughter, Becky, from
this strange state of unawareness to assure Betty that she was all
right.
Then Betty was taken outside and brought on board a small craft resting
on the side of a hill that sloped into the back yard. The machine was
about twenty feet in diameter. It looked like two saucers, one inverted
upon the other, with a small superstructure on top. The small craft
accelerated and apparently merged with a larger parent craft, in which
Betty was subjected to the effects of strange equipment and a physical
examination. Then she was taken to an alien place and given a bizarre
object lesson that caused her to undergo a painful yet ecstatic
religious-like experience.
Later that night, a 10:40 p.m., Betty was returned home by two of her
alien captors. At home, she found her family still in a state of
suspended animation. One being had stayed behind to watch over them
during her absence. Then the beings put the family - still under some
type of mind control - to bed, and the aliens left. Several times, the
aliens had told Betty that certain things had been locked in her mind.
She was instructed to forget them and her UFO experience until the
appointed time. She consciously remembered only a fraction of the
strange encounter; the power failure, the colored light flashing through
the window, and the aliens entering the house. Betty, a devout
Christian, interpreted the creatures as =A0religious or angelic in
nature. The subject of UFOs was largely unknown to her. Her education
had been limited to ten years of schooling, her basic interests included
family, church, and community-related activities. Not until much later
did she think of her experience as a possible UFO encounter.
In 1975, Betty responded to a local newspaper story about UFO researcher
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, who was soliciting personal UFO experience
information from the public. Betty=E2=80=99s letter contained such few
data, however, that it was filed and forgotten until an investigation in
January 1977.
The investigating team consisted of:
a solar physicist
,
an electronics engineer
,
an aerospace engineer
,
a telecommunications specialist
,
a UFO investigator
They employed the services of a professional hypnotist and a medical
doctor trained in psychiatry. During a twelve-month investigation, they
conducted an extensive character-reference check, two lie-detector
tests, a psychiatric interview, and fourteen lengthy hypnotic regression
sessions. Under hypnosis, Betty and her daughter relived a consistent,
detailed UFO experience with genuine physiological reactions. Their
three-volume, 528-page report led to the conclusion that the witnesses
were reliable and sane individuals who sincerely believed the experience
had really occurred.
Her Experience With the Being of Light
The following are the exact transcripts from her hypnotic regression
when Betty was regressed to her childhood during one of her first
abduction experiences and her encounter with the One. Betty=E2=80=99s
words are in blue. The hypnotherapist=E2=80=99s words are in black.
We=E2=80=99re coming up to this wall of glass and a big, big, big, big,
big door. It=E2=80=99s made out of glass.
Does it have hinges?
No. It is so big and there is - I can=E2=80=99t explain it. It is door
after door after door after door. He (the alien leading her) is stopping
there and telling me to stop. I=E2=80=99m just stopping there. He says:
"Now you shall enter the door to see the One." And he says, "Fear not."
[Then Betty appeared to undergo an out-of-body experience!] And
I=E2=80=99m standing there and I=E2=80=99m coming out of myself!
There=E2=80=99s two of me! There=E2=80=99s two of me there! Are you
looking at yourself?
Uh, huh.
Okay. Do you see the One yet?
The One? No.
Okay, go on.
I=E2=80=99m coming up to the door, and the little person is saying: "Now
you shall enter the Great Door and see the glory of the One." And
I=E2=80=99m standing face to face with that door. [Betty now stood
before the strange door. Again she described its appearance and her
out-of-body experience.] There=E2=80=99s a big door there, and it is
big, but it is strange. It is like deeper and deeper and deeper. And
it=E2=80=99s bright, really bright. And I have to stand before the door.
But, before that, I came out of myself. I was just standing over there,
and I was standing over here. There were two of me, but that one over
there was stiff. Have you tried to talk to your other self? That
won=E2=80=99t work, because I=E2=80=99m over here, and that one is over
there.
She looks exactly like you? Is she making motions to show you she is
alive, like breathing, moving her arms?
No.
Would you say she looks like a wax museum piece or something? No, it
looks just like me.
All right, go on.
I was told to come forward. I went in the door, and it=E2=80=99s very
bright. I can=E2=80=99t take you any further.
Why?
Because.
What do you mean, because?
I can=E2=80=99t take you past this door.
Okay, I=E2=80=99ll tell you what. You go past that door alone then for a
few minutes, okay?
[Time and again, the hypnotist tried in different ways to induce Betty
to tell him what was behind the door - all in vain.] Sometime maybe, if
you change your mind, would you tell me? I can=E2=80=99t change my mind.
It is set.
What would happen to you if you did tell me? I can=E2=80=99t tell you.
I=E2=80=99m sorry.
Okay, let=E2=80=99s proceed to the first thing you can tell me. Fair
enough?
Oh!
[Betty=E2=80=99s face glows with joy]
What=E2=80=99s happening now?
I=E2=80=99m coming out of that door, and it was wonderful! Did the One
say something exciting?
I can=E2=80=99t tell you. I=E2=80=99m sorry.
Would you say that the One was God?
Do you really know what God is?
I don=E2=80=99t know. I was hoping that you had seen him and could
therefore tell me.
I can=E2=80=99t tell you about that.
Okay, let=E2=80=99s proceed. What=E2=80=99s happening now? You just came
out of the room, and you feel great.
I come out of the door, and there is a tall white-haired man standing
there and he=E2=80=99s got on a long nightgown. [The next session took
place on May 15, 1980. Determined to find out what lay behind the Great
Door, the hypnotist again brought Betty back in time to where she was
standing before it.] Where are you?
I=E2=80=99m before this huge great big door. It=E2=80=99s glass. Layers
and layers of glass.
What are you standing on?
Glass.
Let me ask you now: You=E2=80=99re going to see the One now, right?
Yeah.
Why are you going to see the One?
Because it is time for me, they said, for me to go home to see the One.
All right, in other words, does this imply that the One is someone that
you have seen before?
I don=E2=80=99t remember.
Okay. Do you know why it is time to see the One? Why haven=E2=80=99t you
asked questions?
They haven=E2=80=99t been there very often. Those little people
haven=E2=80=99t been there very much for me to ask. Yeah, but they are
asking you to do a lot of things, shall we say. I know. But, I=E2=80=99m
in their place. I can=E2=80=99t do anything. Okay. In a moment
you=E2=80=99re going to see the One, right? We don=E2=80=99t want to
waste the experience. We want to get the most out of it. So when you see
the One, I want you to ask yourself: "What am I getting out of this? Why
am I here? And, what will this mean to me later on in my life?"
It=E2=80=99s like any big experience a person is allowed to have. Okay?
I want you to progress to where the door is open and you are seeing the
One.
Oh!
[At that very moment, an indescribable smile came over Betty=E2=80=99s
face. The only adjective that the investigators could think of to
describe it is rapturous. This expression of pure, unrestricted
happiness remained on Betty=E2=80=99s face as the hypnotist continued to
question her.]
You seem happy. Why are you so happy?
It=E2=80=99s just - ah, I just, I can=E2=80=99t tell you about it. All
right. I know you can=E2=80=99t tell me, but I want you to do a few
things. I want you to ask yourself why you are being shown that which
you are being shown. In other words, you weren=E2=80=99t given this trip
just for a free ride, so to speak. They want you to see what you are
seeing. Does that make sense?
Yes.
All right. Now that you=E2=80=99re there, ask yourself: "What am I
getting out of this? Why am I here? What am I supposed to think about
after I leave here?"
Oh, it matters not what I get from it.
What do you mean?
It=E2=80=99s - words cannot explain it. It=E2=80=99s wonderful.
It=E2=80=99s for everybody. I just can=E2=80=99t tell you this. You
can=E2=80=99t? Okay, why can=E2=80=99t you?
For one thing, it=E2=80=99s too overwhelming and it is - it is
indescribable. I just can=E2=80=99t tell you. Besides it=E2=80=99s just
impossible for me to tell you.
All right. Are you capable, when looking around you, to tell yourself? I
see it.
Right. That which you can see, you have a grasp of even if you
don=E2=80=99t understand it.
I understand it. I=E2=80=99m sorry. I=E2=80=99m just sorry. I wish I
could share it with you.
Were you told not to share it with me?
It is like even if I was able to speak it, I wouldn=E2=80=99t be able to
speak it. I can=E2=80=99t. I=E2=80=99m sorry.
Were you specifically told not to speak it? Partly, yeah.
How was it expressed to you?
I can=E2=80=99t tell you those things. I=E2=80=99m sorry. All right. Can
we let the beings speak through you? Suppose you just relax, and
I=E2=80=99ll put my hand on your shoulder and with each number you will
go deeper and deeper. When I reach three, you will just relax and allow
the beings to speak through you. One, two, three. [Betty began speaking
in a strange tongue.] Okay, Betty, can you explain to me so that I could
understand what you have just said?
[Betty begins crying]
Father loves the world so very much.
Yes?
And so many reject him.
Uh huh, okay. You said a lot of words. Can you explain more of what you
said?
They will be felt by those who believe and have faith. They will feel
the love radiating from them.
Okay, where are you now?
I=E2=80=99m where there is light.
And what do you see?
I cannot tell you this.
Okay, that=E2=80=99s all right. Let me ask you. Do you feel much love,
the same love, or any different degree of love now than you have before?
It=E2=80=99s a greater love.
Okay. When will I understand all of the words that the being said
through you?
When you allow the Spirit to come upon you and you are filled with that
love.
Do you understand all the words that you have said? I understand them,
but they will not come forth. Okay, I=E2=80=99m trying to understand.
I=E2=80=99m not trying to ask you to divulge anything, all right? You
understand them, but you can=E2=80=99t express them?
They=E2=80=99re in my heart.
More like a feeling than a concept?
They=E2=80=99re in my heart, in my mind, in my body. Okay, could you
explain this to your children? What children?
[During this hypnotic session, Betty was regressed to a childhood
experience when she was single with no children.] If you have children
someday. The words that you spoke, while they had a message of love in
them, did they also have a warning? Yes. Those that do not have love
have nothing. Love is the answer. [Again the hypnotist failed to elicit
the information that he sought regarding what Betty had experienced
while behind the Great Door. With endless patience, he tried yet again.]
Okay. You=E2=80=99ve seen the One. Do you feel different about anything
now than you did before?
Everything is so wonderful!
Is there anybody that you don=E2=80=99t like?
No.
There are some people, shall we say, that aren=E2=80=99t as nice as
other people, right?
No, everybody is nice. They are just growing, that=E2=80=99s all. If one
doesn=E2=80=99t understand another one, they are just growing,
that=E2=80=99s all.
Okay, just relax. You=E2=80=99ve been to see the One and now everything
is a little nicer, right?
I understand that everything is one.
What do you mean?
Everything fits together. Everything is one. It=E2=80=99s beautiful! No
matter what it is!
[Betty=E2=80=99s experience with the One ends here.] Go Back
UFOs and The NDE
by =A0Joseph Kerrick
1997
from =A0NearDeath Website
Betty Luca=E2=80=99s description under hypnosis of her experience of the
One in the preceding page is instantly recognizable as the same type of
experience reported by many experiencers, and even in many cases the
same IDENTICAL experience. It is a very basic kind of spiritual
experience, which has also been consistently reported throughout history
by saints, mystics, and various types of ecstatics. The similarities
between UFO abduction and NDEs have been explored by a number of writers
and researchers, the most famous and credentialed of which is
undoubtedly Dr. Ken Ring. Dr. Ring did an extensive series of clinical
studies on the NDE and published his results in Life at Death and
Heading Toward Omega.
Then he did a follow-up project in which he studied UFO experiencers
(primarily "abductees"), and specifically compared this phenomenon to
that of near-death. His full report can be found in =A0The Omega
Project; he found strong similarities between the two types of
experience, and hypothesized that they may actually be two variants of a
more basic underlying phenomenon.
Ring also quotes other commentators, who make the following remarks:
According to polls, we live in an age where now most people believe that
UFOs are real and that =E2=80=99people like us live on other
planets.=E2=80=99 In that context, since angels and demons are out of
style, they now dress in the costume of our own epoch=E2=80=99s
archetypal figure - the extraterrestrial alien - whom we can see
precisely because we can now CONCEIVE of him; he conforms to and
expresses our current ideas of possibility. Abductions may represent a
=A0contemporary form of shamanic journey - one that fits and is phrased
in terms of a highly technological society which has already turned its
imaginative attention to star flight ... Perhaps the (ancient)
otherworld journey motif is =E2=80=99camouflaged=E2=80=99 in the modern
lore of space travel which, like the fantastic voyage legends of the
past, exemplifies what might be called the lure of the edge.
These ecological and millennial themes have been part of the canon of
the UFO world and its literature for a long time, and many persons have
already commented on their quasi-religious character. Indeed, in an age
where secular thinking has come to be the standard but from which the
religious impulse has never disappeared, it is psychologically very
understandable why traditional religious images of salvation have come
to be projected onto the screen of a universe where, for some, it is
easier to believe in ETs than in God. Betty Luca does believe in God
very strongly, being a devout Christian; yet a striking difference
between her experience and that of near-death experiencers is that she
was escorted to it not by dead relatives nor Christian spiritual
figures, but by small gray bug-eyed space aliens. Yet, at the end of
this first event, which occurred when she was only 13 years old, there
appeared figures of a different type: a number of entities who were
human-looking except for their size, being about seven feet tall; they
were dressed in long white robes, had pale-colored skin, and hair that
was blond to white. In a word, they looked exactly like the Christian
image of angels, except that they had no wings. Betty called these
beings "the Elders," after the Christian term used especially in the
Book of Revelation, denoting the angelic beings surrounding the throne
of God.
(Note: Experiencers have also reported being brought before a Council of
Elders to have a life review).
After some three decades of further experiences, reported in a total of
four books by researcher Raymond Fowler, there came a point when the
Elders seemed to completely take over Betty=E2=80=99s encounters. All
the earlier events, including her first experience of the One, took
place in mysterious locations which seemed to be underground, or else on
or near the surface of the earth. But now, as reported in the last of
Fowler=E2=80=99s books, The Watchers II: Exploring UFOs and the Near
Death Experience, the small Grays came again for Betty in a saucer, and
for the first time took her into outer space, where the small craft
docked with a huge cylindrical mother-ship. This was the domain of the
Elders, who apparently commanded the Grays in a symbiotic relationship.
This journey climaxed for Betty in another ecstatic experience of the
One, though this time the events leading up to it were very different.
Betty asked why she was here with the Elders, and they said:
"Don=E2=80=99t you remember your blessing?"
She didn=E2=80=99t know what they were talking about, and in response
they used a machine to show her a scene from earlier in her life. It was
at a church service, and what happened was this: Betty stood up and gave
testimony and pledged to use her talents for the glory of God. This was
probably not unusual for this type of service. But then the minister
suddenly began speaking in tongues. His wife jumped up, ran down the
aisle to Betty, put her hands on Betty=E2=80=99s head, and began
speaking in tongues herself. Then the minister interpreted his
wife=E2=80=99s tongues; it was a message for Betty: "You have given all
that you have ... thou shalt be blessed above women
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This was evidently the scene as Betty remembered it from when she was
younger. But now in the strange replay on the mother-ship, she noticed
some differences. Some of the people had a light around them - these
included Betty, the minister, and his wife. And two =A0Elders were
present in the room, unseen by the congregation.
One of the Elders stood behind the minister and put his hand on the
man=E2=80=99s shoulder - and this is when he began speaking in tongues.
Then the Elder whispered in the ear of the minister=E2=80=99s wife, and
this is when she jumped up and administered "the blessing" to Betty.
Evidently the whole scenario had been orchestrated by the Elders. After
being shown this scene from the past, Betty witnessed live what clearly
seems to have been an act of ritual magic performed by the Elders. Three
of them stepped into a circle drawn on the floor, subdivided by straight
lines into six equal parts. They touched their hands together, and then,
as they concentrated, beams of light came out of their foreheads, and
formed a triangle. At length, in the center of this triangle, there
appeared a ring of light, floating in the air.
Three more Elders stepped into the circle, and they all began chanting
"Oh." Three more beams of light appeared, forming a perfect hexagram. A
larger circle of light formed around the heads of the Elders. Then this
light-ring moved upwards, shrank to the same size as the ring in the
center, and floated down and interconnected with it, forming a revolving
spherical object which finally condensed into a beach ball-sized orb of
lavender-purple light. This was then taken and placed in a four-pronged
stand which had obviously been designed specifically to hold such
spheres.
The term "Elders" is Betty=E2=80=99s name for these beings. When on an
earlier occasion she had asked them who they were, they had answered
that they are "the ambassadors of Oh, masters of rings, cycles, and
orbs."
Now, after witnessing the creation of this magical orb, Betty asked an
Elder:
"Who is Oh?"
He replied that Oh is "the internal, external, eternal presence." The
next thing that happened, to Betty=E2=80=99s extreme startlement, was
that the Elders induced an out-of-body experience in her. This is
similar to what happened in her experience at age 13, before she entered
the Great Door and saw the One. Now, on the mother-ship, as soon as she
emerged in her subtle body, one of the Elders handed her the orb of
purple light, and another led her through a portal made of rippling
waves of energy.
On the other side of the portal, Betty and the Elder seemed to be on
earth, in a woods at night.
Some hobos were sleeping on the ground. One of them awakened and
approached the two visitors; he glowed with light. The Elder wore little
rings of light on his fingers. He allowed the hobo to take some of them,
and they turned into a single tiny ball of light, which the man kept.
Meanwhile, the larger orb in Betty=E2=80=99s hands changed color
momentarily, evidently in resonance with the transaction. Every once in
awhile, Betty=E2=80=99s attention was drawn into the ball: "Oh," she
said, "it=E2=80=99s just so beautiful! Something in it keeps on moving
.. "
Now the Elder touched Betty=E2=80=99s shoulder. There was a little
explosion of white light, and then they were in a different place: a
hospital room, where a very old man lay in a bed, with a nurse keeping
vigil beside him. And there was more: two small entities which seemed to
be made of darkness where tugging at the man, as if trying to pull his
soul out of his body - this was Betty=E2=80=99s impression. But there
was also present a light-being; this was a type of entity Betty had
encountered before in her experiences - it had no visible human
features, but appeared as a bodily form made of white light. This being
was also tugging at the dying man; it was clearly a battle for his soul
between these opposing entities. The Elder resolved the conflict: he
threw two tiny balls of light at the black entities, and they flew away.
The Elder and Betty next transported to a woods again, where a small
saucer and two of the Grays awaited them. They went on board, and
evidently flew up into the sky. Betty asked where they were going now,
and the Elder replied that they were going to see the One. Betty had to
give the purple orb to one of the Grays; she was very reluctant and
sorrowful to give it up. The craft came to a stop, and they emerged into
a place filled with bright light. Above them was the Great Door, which
was the source of the light. The Elder touched one of the Grays on the
shoulder and spoke to him, and he came along with the Elder and Betty as
they walked toward the Light. Their walk turned into a run, as they
moved swiftly into the pure radiance.
Betty was overwhelmed with the ecstasy of the One, which she
re-experienced on the hypnotist=E2=80=99s couch, and the several people
in attendance were all profoundly moved by the visible effects of her
transformation.
Betty, the Elder, and the Gray all turned into light-beings as they went
into the One. Each was a different hue: the Elder=E2=80=99s light-body
was pure white, the Gray alien=E2=80=99s was light blue, and
Betty=E2=80=99s was golden.
Betty said: "Oh, there is such love ... Oh, there is such peace ...
I=E2=80=99m just engulfed in light and blending into that light. Oh! ...
Oh, this is everything, everything, everything ... I cannot explain the
wonder and beauty and love and peace."
And then came a heartbroken cry as Betty realized that she would have to
leave this beatific state of Oneness:
"Oh, I=E2=80=99m going to have to go back. I have to go back for others
so that they too will see, will understand and know ..." And Betty, the
Elder, and the Gray emerged back out of the Light, turning back into
their normal forms in the process. The Elder gave three of the tiny
balls of light to Betty; then she was escorted into the saucer and taken
home by the Grays. She found her physical body sitting up on the side of
her bed next to her sleeping husband, and re-entered it. The experience
had ended. Raymond Fowler=E2=80=99s follow-up book is entitled =A0The
Andreasson Affair Phase Two - The Continuing Investigation of a
Woman=E2=80=99s Abduction by Alien Beings.
He is also author of the books The Allagash Abductions: Undeniable
Evidence of Alien Intervention and UFO Testament : Anatomy of an
Abductee.
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An Interview with
Betty (Andreasson) Luca
by Brent Raynes
Alternate Perceptions Magazine
Issue # 86 - December 2004
from =A0MysteriousAmerica Website
Highly respected and one of the better known UFO
=E2=80=9Cabductees,=E2=80 =A0the subject of five books by the
distinguished Raymond E. Fowler, Betty Ann =A0(Andreasson) Luca answers
our questions.
Furthermore, I suspect we=E2=80=99ll be hearing much more about Betty in
the near future. She mentioned that the situation for her and her
husband Bob is still ongoing, and that much of the information she
received and collected from the Beings over the years has been given
careful study, and that two researchers in particular have recently
managed to =E2=80=9Cdecipher part of the work, and uncover some very
profound and important revelations.=E2=80 =A0
In addition, in early December 2005 Betty will speak at the
ARE=E2=80=99s first annual UFO Conference in Virginia Beach, VA. Editor:
Initially, back in 1967, you and members of your family suffered a very
disturbing series of memories revolving around a certain experience that
happened at your home in South Ashburnham, Massachusetts. For a good
number of years afterwards you tried to interest someone in the UFO
community to look into what had occurred, but it wasn=E2=80=99t until a
team of investigators headed by Raymond E. Fowler that your situation
got serious attention, correct? Can you describe what those early years
was like, and the effect that it had on you and your family?
Betty Ann Luca: When my 1967 UFO encounter happened, only a small
portion of memory was attained at the time by me, even though other
members of my family were present such as my father, mother and seven
children. However, three days after the experience, my eleven year old
daughter Becky came to me concerning short dreams she was having of the
unusual Beings in our house. Many years later my father had recall of
the initial visit from the Beings, but had not wanted to get involved
and was concerned for my welfare over me telling others about it. He was
on Disability and feared the government would hurt him somehow through
his Social Security.
This is how my UFO experience actually came to be public. There was a
Von Daniken article in the rag- tag paper called =A0The Enquirer. In it
he was reporting about ancient crafts. I was moved to write a letter to
the newspaper about Von Daniken=E2=80=99s story, and the Enquirer sent
my letter back and stamped it in red, UFO!
Which surprised me for I knew nothing about UFOs. Then a few years later
an article appeared in a local newspaper asking anyone that had a
sighting to contact a =A0Dr. Hynek of CUFOS, Center for UFO Studies. I
remembered the red stamped ufo on my return letter from the Enquirer and
thought to send him everything I had remembered of my odd experience. So
I sent the information I remembered of the silence, the blinking orange
red lights outside the pantry window, and description of the Beings
coming into my kitchen.
Dr. Hynek filed my letter away for two years until a Massachusetts
volunteer group of researchers wanting to study any humanoid UFO case in
their area, contacted CUFOS and requested if there were any such cases.
That=E2=80=99s when he sent my letter and address to them. I was
contacted by Jules Vailencourt by telephone, and he later visited us to
see if we were willing to find out what happened. And that=E2=80=99s how
it all began. Jules would drive us to Beverly, to the
hypnotist=E2=80=99s office. We were questioned concerning what we
remembered, then Dr. Edlestien hypnotized us, and after each session we
were questioned some more. Each session was about an hour or more and by
the time we returned home we were exhausted and at times had to take a
nap from the long day.
At times I was left in subliminal hypnosis and through the week began to
have very strong flash backs occur. Which scared me! I wanted to quit
and expressed it over the phone to Jules. He pleaded with me to please
continue. That others had experienced things that I had happen. Because
the memories I was remembering seemed like science fiction, I asked if
there was any way it could be checked or verified, to see if I was
imagining, lying, or going insane from the detailed experience flooding
my mind. If so I would need help!
This opened the door for lie detector tests to be used on both my
daughter and I, and spontaneous psychiatric checks to take place. Which
made the investigators happy, for they wanted to do this, but did not
know how to approach the issue without adding more stress to the
situation of what happened to us.
Later when the Andreasson Affair was published there was a whirlwind of
media coverage! It was exceptionally frantic when Raymond Fowler, my new
husband Bob, and I had to promote the A.A. book on radio and television,
and newspaper/magazine interviews across the country. All the attention
was scary. I was somewhat shy, and didn=E2=80=99t like to be known as
the lady who had a weird thing happen to her! In the earlier years after
I had sent the letter to Dr. Hynek I felt relieved and everything
returned to normal family life.
We had a mini farm with Molly our cow, calves, pigs and chickens and
large garden to care for, besides seven children and my first
husband=E2=80=99s father who=E2=80=99d had a stroke and was living with
us. And then after an anniversary party, my now ex-husband had too much
to drink, was incarcerated over night and disappeared the next day for
many months. That was when the investigation of my case began, and some
months later my two sons died in an automobile accident. Editor: As the
hypnotic exploration continued, repressed memories that extended back to
childhood events were also recovered. There were certainly many
startling revelations. Ray Fowler even began to recognize symptoms of
the UFO abduction experience within himself and his own family. How did
this evolving situation change things for you? Betty Ann Luca: Yes, Dr.
Edelstien tried to take me back to a childhood experience. And did break
through to an area that was dark. It was silent and three gray forms
stood motionless in a misty darkness. I became extremely fearful over
what I saw. Dr. Edelstein quickly pulled me out of hypnosis, and did not
want to pursue the experience any further than what had been recalled,
due to such a strong emotional response from me at the time. It would be
many years later that hypnotist Fred Max would manage to take me safely
back to my childhood encounters with the grey Beings.
As Ray Fowler began to recall his and his families own UFO experiences,
he wanted to delve deeper into the repressed memories, however his wife
was not comfortable with it. For she also had witnessed disturbing and
unusual things take place with Ray. Ray tried to comfort her misgivings
concerning the possibility of family involvement with the phenomena.
Just knowing she was fearful for her families safety, I felt
uncomfortable each time I had to call Ray and report another unusual
experience happening to us.
Editor: Now, all of these years later, where have the memories and
revelations taken you?
Betty Ann Luca: After all the experiences, exposure, and integration of
this other dimension of reality, I feel more aware of life, its
complexities, and how like a river it flows calmly onward to awaken the
human race toward spiritual harmony.
Editor: What do you possibly foresee as the future for humankind with
regards to the ongoing UFO contact phenomenon? Betty Ann Luca: The more
we learn of the unknown the greater understanding of who we are emerges.
Facing new and unusual experiences enhances our spiritual development.
Why, and what for, such contact takes place, may open a door to greater
knowledge of the hidden world that surrounds us. Man is resilient and
can survive as long as he recognizes there are certain forces that
exist, that may or may not be controlled, whether physical or spiritual,
good or bad. They rest in God=E2=80=99s hands, whose Will is greater
than ours. Editor: What role do you feel that your Christian faith has
played in your rising above the initial trauma of the 1967
=E2=80=9Cabduction=E2=80 =A0and the positive spiritual level which
you=E2=80=99ve arrived at since?
Betty Ann Luca: My Christian belief is and has been the most important
thing in my life, since I was sixteen, when I accepted Jesus Christ as
my personal Savior. I believed the Beings I experienced to be angelic.
Although the 1967 encounter was strange, and the grey Beings were not as
I envisioned an angel to look like. It did not frighten me when they
entered my home. For I knew and know I am in the Lord=E2=80=99s care. I
was at a positive level back then, and it has been enhanced now for many
years. First, through belief in the word of God. Second from all the
visitations. And third seeing most all the information the Beings have
related to me has been coming to pass.
Editor: Do you think that the UFO phenomenon can be adequately addressed
as a physical hard =E2=80=9Cnuts and bolts=E2=80 =A0science alone, or do
you feel that spirituality must also be included in this quest? Betty
Ann Luca: No, I don=E2=80=99t think the UFO phenomenon can be adequately
addressed alone as physical hard =E2=80=9Cnuts and bolts=E2=80
=A0science. When God made heaven and earth it was first spiritually
made. Heaven and earth was spirit. But it was without a form and was
void. There was actually no visible form and it was empty. It was only
after the spiritual image was created that a physical form followed
which was filled with substance to complete the work. When we see the
=E2=80=9Cnuts and bolts,=E2=80 =A0we are looking at the forms without
realizing it exists because of Spirit. Nothing can exist until it is
spirit.
The spiritual part of the UFO phenomena is not considered because we
look at the material form only. The spirit rests within the finished
product. Faith is spiritual. As the scripture says, faith is the
substance hoped for, the evidence not seen. Faith is the power of spirit
that creates form and substance into existence. Anything that has become
was first spirit, thought, word, or idea. Most definitely, in order to
understand the UFO phenomenon, spirituality must be present.
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One of the most documented and believable cases in UFOlogy is the
experience of one woman’s abduction aboard a UFO.  Her name is
Betty Andreasson Luca who is a devout Christian. During her abduction,
she was taken before a being of intense light and love called "the One."
This description of this being is remarkably similar to descriptions of
the so-called "Being of Light" encountered in near-death experiences.
Her first abduction occurred during her childhood and culminated with an
abduction experience that involved her whole family. Led by a number of
teams of highly-credentialed investigators, her experience is one of the
most thoroughly investigated cases ever reported in the annals of
hypnotherapy.
This page is mainly focused on her experience as a child with the Being
of Light she calls "the One." The following are excerpts from  Raymond
Fowler’s book,  The Andreasson Affair: The Documented
Investigation of a Woman’s Abduction Aboard a UFO. Raymond
Fowler is also the author of the book The Watchers and his excellent
follow-up book The Watchers II: Exploring UFOs and the Near Death
Experience (more about  The Watchers). For even more information about
the connection between the NDE and UFO phenomenon, read the article by
Dr. Kenneth Ring entitled  Near-death and UFO Encounters as Shamanic
Initiations: Some Conceptual and Evolutionary Implications.
The Abduction of Betty Andreasson Luca
On the evening of January 25, 1967, Betty Andreasson was in her kitchen
at South Ashburnham, Massachusetts. Her seven children, mother, and
father were in the living room.
At about 6:35 p.m., the house lights suddenly blinked out for a moment.
Then, a pulsating reddish-orange light shined in the kitchen window.
Betty calmed the frightened children while her father rushed to look out
the kitchen window. He saw a group of strange-looking small creatures
approaching with a hopping motion. Five small humanoid creatures entered
the house, passing right through the wooden door. Betty’s family
was immediately placed into suspended animation. One creature went over
to her father. The leader of the other four established telepathic
communication with Betty. The leader was about five feet tall.
The others were about four feet tall. All had large pear-shaped heads,
wide catlike wraparound eyes, and diminutive ears and noses. Their
mouths were immobile slits that reminded Betty of scar lines. Each wore
a coverall blue uniform adorned with a Sam Browne-type belt. An insignia
of a bird was affixed to their sleeves. Their hands had three digits.
(Later, on the craft, they were gloved.) They wore boot-like attire on
their feet. They floated rather than walked. Betty’s initial
fright was immediately calmed by an overpowering sense of friendship.
When she displayed concern for her family’s welfare, the
creatures temporarily released her eleven-year-old daughter, Becky, from
this strange state of unawareness to assure Betty that she was all
right.
Then Betty was taken outside and brought on board a small craft resting
on the side of a hill that sloped into the back yard. The machine was
about twenty feet in diameter. It looked like two saucers, one inverted
upon the other, with a small superstructure on top. The small craft
accelerated and apparently merged with a larger parent craft, in which
Betty was subjected to the effects of strange equipment and a physical
examination. Then she was taken to an alien place and given a bizarre
object lesson that caused her to undergo a painful yet ecstatic
religious-like experience.
Later that night, a 10:40 p.m., Betty was returned home by two of her
alien captors. At home, she found her family still in a state of
suspended animation. One being had stayed behind to watch over them
during her absence. Then the beings put the family - still under some
type of mind control - to bed, and the aliens left. Several times, the
aliens had told Betty that certain things had been locked in her mind.
She was instructed to forget them and her UFO experience until the
appointed time. She consciously remembered only a fraction of the
strange encounter; the power failure, the colored light flashing through
the window, and the aliens entering the house. Betty, a devout
Christian, interpreted the creatures as  religious or angelic in
nature. The subject of UFOs was largely unknown to her. Her education
had been limited to ten years of schooling, her basic interests included
family, church, and community-related activities. Not until much later
did she think of her experience as a possible UFO encounter.
In 1975, Betty responded to a local newspaper story about UFO researcher
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, who was soliciting personal UFO experience
information from the public. Betty’s letter contained such few
data, however, that it was filed and forgotten until an investigation in
January 1977.
a solar physicist
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an electronics engineer
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an aerospace engineer
,
a telecommunications specialist
,
a UFO investigator
They employed the services of a professional hypnotist and a medical
doctor trained in psychiatry. During a twelve-month investigation, they
conducted an extensive character-reference check, two lie-detector
tests, a psychiatric interview, and fourteen lengthy hypnotic regression
sessions. Under hypnosis, Betty and her daughter relived a consistent,
detailed UFO experience with genuine physiological reactions. Their
three-volume, 528-page report led to the conclusion that the witnesses
were reliable and sane individuals who sincerely believed the experience
had really occurred.
Her Experience With the Being of Light
The following are the exact transcripts from her hypnotic regression
when Betty was regressed to her childhood during one of her first
abduction experiences and her encounter with the One. Betty’s
words are in blue. The hypnotherapist’s words are in black.
We’re coming up to this wall of glass and a big, big, big, big,
big door. It’s made out of glass.
Does it have hinges?
No. It is so big and there is - I can’t explain it. It is door
after door after door after door. He (the alien leading her) is stopping
"Now you shall enter the door to see the One." And he says, "Fear not."
[Then Betty appeared to undergo an out-of-body experience!] And
I’m standing there and I’m coming out of myself!
There’s two of me! There’s two of me there! Are you
looking at yourself?
Uh, huh.
Okay. Do you see the One yet?
The One? No.
Okay, go on.
I’m coming up to the door, and the little person is saying: "Now
you shall enter the Great Door and see the glory of the One." And
I’m standing face to face with that door. [Betty now stood
before the strange door. Again she described its appearance and her
out-of-body experience.] There’s a big door there, and it is
big, but it is strange. It is like deeper and deeper and deeper. And
it’s bright, really bright. And I have to stand before the door.
But, before that, I came out of myself. I was just standing over there,
and I was standing over here. There were two of me, but that one over
there was stiff. Have you tried to talk to your other self? That
won’t work, because I’m over here, and that one is over
there.
She looks exactly like you? Is she making motions to show you she is
alive, like breathing, moving her arms?
No.
Would you say she looks like a wax museum piece or something? No, it
looks just like me.
All right, go on.
I was told to come forward. I went in the door, and it’s very
bright. I can’t take you any further.
Why?
Because.
What do you mean, because?
I can’t take you past this door.
Okay, I’ll tell you what. You go past that door alone then for a
few minutes, okay?
[Time and again, the hypnotist tried in different ways to induce Betty
to tell him what was behind the door - all in vain.] Sometime maybe, if
you change your mind, would you tell me? I can’t change my mind.
It is set.
What would happen to you if you did tell me? I can’t tell you.
I’m sorry.
Okay, let’s proceed to the first thing you can tell me. Fair
enough?
Oh!
[Betty’s face glows with joy]
What’s happening now?
I’m coming out of that door, and it was wonderful! Did the One
say something exciting?
I can’t tell you. I’m sorry.
Would you say that the One was God?
Do you really know what God is?
I don’t know. I was hoping that you had seen him and could
therefore tell me.
I can’t tell you about that.
Okay, let’s proceed. What’s happening now? You just came
out of the room, and you feel great.
I come out of the door, and there is a tall white-haired man standing
there and he’s got on a long nightgown. [The next session took
place on May 15, 1980. Determined to find out what lay behind the Great
Door, the hypnotist again brought Betty back in time to where she was
standing before it.] Where are you?
I’m before this huge great big door. It’s glass. Layers
and layers of glass.
What are you standing on?
Glass.
Let me ask you now: You’re going to see the One now, right?
Yeah.
Why are you going to see the One?
Because it is time for me, they said, for me to go home to see the One.
All right, in other words, does this imply that the One is someone that
you have seen before?
I don’t remember.
Okay. Do you know why it is time to see the One? Why haven’t you
asked questions?
They haven’t been there very often. Those little people
haven’t been there very much for me to ask. Yeah, but they are
asking you to do a lot of things, shall we say. I know. But, I’m
in their place. I can’t do anything. Okay. In a moment
you’re going to see the One, right? We don’t want to
waste the experience. We want to get the most out of it. So when you see
the One, I want you to ask yourself: "What am I getting out of this? Why
am I here? And, what will this mean to me later on in my life?"
It’s like any big experience a person is allowed to have. Okay?
I want you to progress to where the door is open and you are seeing the
One.
Oh!
[At that very moment, an indescribable smile came over Betty’s
face. The only adjective that the investigators could think of to
describe it is rapturous. This expression of pure, unrestricted
happiness remained on Betty’s face as the hypnotist continued to
question her.]
You seem happy. Why are you so happy?
It’s just - ah, I just, I can’t tell you about it. All
right. I know you can’t tell me, but I want you to do a few
things. I want you to ask yourself why you are being shown that which
you are being shown. In other words, you weren’t given this trip
just for a free ride, so to speak. They want you to see what you are
seeing. Does that make sense?
Yes.
All right. Now that you’re there, ask yourself: "What am I
getting out of this? Why am I here? What am I supposed to think about
after I leave here?"
Oh, it matters not what I get from it.
What do you mean?
It’s - words cannot explain it. It’s wonderful.
It’s for everybody. I just can’t tell you this. You
can’t? Okay, why can’t you?
For one thing, it’s too overwhelming and it is - it is
indescribable. I just can’t tell you. Besides it’s just
impossible for me to tell you.
All right. Are you capable, when looking around you, to tell yourself? I
see it.
Right. That which you can see, you have a grasp of even if you
don’t understand it.
I understand it. I’m sorry. I’m just sorry. I wish I
could share it with you.
Were you told not to share it with me?
It is like even if I was able to speak it, I wouldn’t be able to
speak it. I can’t. I’m sorry.
Were you specifically told not to speak it? Partly, yeah.
How was it expressed to you?
I can’t tell you those things. I’m sorry. All right. Can
we let the beings speak through you? Suppose you just relax, and
I’ll put my hand on your shoulder and with each number you will
go deeper and deeper. When I reach three, you will just relax and allow
the beings to speak through you. One, two, three. [Betty began speaking
in a strange tongue.] Okay, Betty, can you explain to me so that I could
understand what you have just said?
[Betty begins crying]
Father loves the world so very much.
Yes?
And so many reject him.
Uh huh, okay. You said a lot of words. Can you explain more of what you
said?
They will be felt by those who believe and have faith. They will feel
the love radiating from them.
Okay, where are you now?
I’m where there is light.
And what do you see?
I cannot tell you this.
Okay, that’s all right. Let me ask you. Do you feel much love,
the same love, or any different degree of love now than you have before?
It’s a greater love.
Okay. When will I understand all of the words that the being said
through you?
When you allow the Spirit to come upon you and you are filled with that
love.
Do you understand all the words that you have said? I understand them,
but they will not come forth. Okay, I’m trying to understand.
I’m not trying to ask you to divulge anything, all right? You
understand them, but you can’t express them?
They’re in my heart.
More like a feeling than a concept?
They’re in my heart, in my mind, in my body. Okay, could you
explain this to your children? What children?
[During this hypnotic session, Betty was regressed to a childhood
experience when she was single with no children.] If you have children
someday. The words that you spoke, while they had a message of love in
them, did they also have a warning? Yes. Those that do not have love
have nothing. Love is the answer. [Again the hypnotist failed to elicit
the information that he sought regarding what Betty had experienced
while behind the Great Door. With endless patience, he tried yet again.]
Okay. You’ve seen the One. Do you feel different about anything
now than you did before?
Everything is so wonderful!
Is there anybody that you don’t like?
No.
There are some people, shall we say, that aren’t as nice as
other people, right?
No, everybody is nice. They are just growing, that’s all. If one
doesn’t understand another one, they are just growing,
that’s all.
Okay, just relax. You’ve been to see the One and now everything
is a little nicer, right?
I understand that everything is one.
What do you mean?
Everything fits together. Everything is one. It’s beautiful! No
matter what it is!
[Betty’s experience with the One ends here.] Go Back
UFOs and The NDE
by  Joseph Kerrick
1997
from  NearDeath Website
Betty Luca’s description under hypnosis of her experience of the
One in the preceding page is instantly recognizable as the same type of
experience reported by many experiencers, and even in many cases the
same IDENTICAL experience. It is a very basic kind of spiritual
experience, which has also been consistently reported throughout history
by saints, mystics, and various types of ecstatics. The similarities
between UFO abduction and NDEs have been explored by a number of writers
and researchers, the most famous and credentialed of which is
undoubtedly Dr. Ken Ring. Dr. Ring did an extensive series of clinical
studies on the NDE and published his results in Life at Death and
Heading Toward Omega.
Then he did a follow-up project in which he studied UFO experiencers
(primarily "abductees"), and specifically compared this phenomenon to
that of near-death. His full report can be found in  The Omega
Project; he found strong similarities between the two types of
experience, and hypothesized that they may actually be two variants of a
more basic underlying phenomenon.
According to polls, we live in an age where now most people believe that
UFOs are real and that ’people like us live on other
planets.’ In that context, since angels and demons are out of
style, they now dress in the costume of our own epoch’s
archetypal figure - the extraterrestrial alien - whom we can see
precisely because we can now CONCEIVE of him; he conforms to and
expresses our current ideas of possibility. Abductions may represent a
 contemporary form of shamanic journey - one that fits and is phrased
in terms of a highly technological society which has already turned its
imaginative attention to star flight ... Perhaps the (ancient)
otherworld journey motif is ’camouflaged’ in the modern
lore of space travel which, like the fantastic voyage legends of the
past, exemplifies what might be called the lure of the edge.
These ecological and millennial themes have been part of the canon of
the UFO world and its literature for a long time, and many persons have
already commented on their quasi-religious character. Indeed, in an age
where secular thinking has come to be the standard but from which the
religious impulse has never disappeared, it is psychologically very
understandable why traditional religious images of salvation have come
to be projected onto the screen of a universe where, for some, it is
easier to believe in ETs than in God. Betty Luca does believe in God
very strongly, being a devout Christian; yet a striking difference
between her experience and that of near-death experiencers is that she
was escorted to it not by dead relatives nor Christian spiritual
figures, but by small gray bug-eyed space aliens. Yet, at the end of
this first event, which occurred when she was only 13 years old, there
appeared figures of a different type: a number of entities who were
human-looking except for their size, being about seven feet tall; they
were dressed in long white robes, had pale-colored skin, and hair that
was blond to white. In a word, they looked exactly like the Christian
image of angels, except that they had no wings. Betty called these
beings "the Elders," after the Christian term used especially in the
Book of Revelation, denoting the angelic beings surrounding the throne
of God.
(Note: Experiencers have also reported being brought before a Council of
Elders to have a life review).
After some three decades of further experiences, reported in a total of
four books by researcher Raymond Fowler, there came a point when the
Elders seemed to completely take over Betty’s encounters. All
the earlier events, including her first experience of the One, took
place in mysterious locations which seemed to be underground, or else on
or near the surface of the earth. But now, as reported in the last of
Fowler’s books, The Watchers II: Exploring UFOs and the Near
Death Experience, the small Grays came again for Betty in a saucer, and
for the first time took her into outer space, where the small craft
docked with a huge cylindrical mother-ship. This was the domain of the
Elders, who apparently commanded the Grays in a symbiotic relationship.
This journey climaxed for Betty in another ecstatic experience of the
One, though this time the events leading up to it were very different.
"Don’t you remember your blessing?"
She didn’t know what they were talking about, and in response
they used a machine to show her a scene from earlier in her life. It was
at a church service, and what happened was this: Betty stood up and gave
testimony and pledged to use her talents for the glory of God. This was
probably not unusual for this type of service. But then the minister
suddenly began speaking in tongues. His wife jumped up, ran down the
aisle to Betty, put her hands on Betty’s head, and began
speaking in tongues herself. Then the minister interpreted his
wife’s tongues; it was a message for Betty: "You have given all
that you have ... thou shalt be blessed above women
. "
This was evidently the scene as Betty remembered it from when she was
younger. But now in the strange replay on the mother-ship, she noticed
some differences. Some of the people had a light around them - these
included Betty, the minister, and his wife. And two  Elders were
present in the room, unseen by the congregation.
One of the Elders stood behind the minister and put his hand on the
man’s shoulder - and this is when he began speaking in tongues.
Then the Elder whispered in the ear of the minister’s wife, and
this is when she jumped up and administered "the blessing" to Betty.
Evidently the whole scenario had been orchestrated by the Elders. After
being shown this scene from the past, Betty witnessed live what clearly
seems to have been an act of ritual magic performed by the Elders. Three
of them stepped into a circle drawn on the floor, subdivided by straight
lines into six equal parts. They touched their hands together, and then,
as they concentrated, beams of light came out of their foreheads, and
formed a triangle. At length, in the center of this triangle, there
appeared a ring of light, floating in the air.
Three more Elders stepped into the circle, and they all began chanting
"Oh." Three more beams of light appeared, forming a perfect hexagram. A
larger circle of light formed around the heads of the Elders. Then this
light-ring moved upwards, shrank to the same size as the ring in the
center, and floated down and interconnected with it, forming a revolving
spherical object which finally condensed into a beach ball-sized orb of
lavender-purple light. This was then taken and placed in a four-pronged
stand which had obviously been designed specifically to hold such
spheres.
The term "Elders" is Betty’s name for these beings. When on an
earlier occasion she had asked them who they were, they had answered
that they are "the ambassadors of Oh, masters of rings, cycles, and
orbs."
Now, after witnessing the creation of this magical orb, Betty asked an
"Who is Oh?"
He replied that Oh is "the internal, external, eternal presence." The
next thing that happened, to Betty’s extreme startlement, was
that the Elders induced an out-of-body experience in her. This is
similar to what happened in her experience at age 13, before she entered
the Great Door and saw the One. Now, on the mother-ship, as soon as she
emerged in her subtle body, one of the Elders handed her the orb of
purple light, and another led her through a portal made of rippling
waves of energy.
On the other side of the portal, Betty and the Elder seemed to be on
earth, in a woods at night.
Some hobos were sleeping on the ground. One of them awakened and
approached the two visitors; he glowed with light. The Elder wore little
rings of light on his fingers. He allowed the hobo to take some of them,
and they turned into a single tiny ball of light, which the man kept.
Meanwhile, the larger orb in Betty’s hands changed color
momentarily, evidently in resonance with the transaction. Every once in
awhile, Betty’s attention was drawn into the ball: "Oh," she
said, "it’s just so beautiful! Something in it keeps on moving
.. "
Now the Elder touched Betty’s shoulder. There was a little
explosion of white light, and then they were in a different place: a
hospital room, where a very old man lay in a bed, with a nurse keeping
vigil beside him. And there was more: two small entities which seemed to
be made of darkness where tugging at the man, as if trying to pull his
soul out of his body - this was Betty’s impression. But there
was also present a light-being; this was a type of entity Betty had
encountered before in her experiences - it had no visible human
features, but appeared as a bodily form made of white light. This being
was also tugging at the dying man; it was clearly a battle for his soul
between these opposing entities. The Elder resolved the conflict: he
threw two tiny balls of light at the black entities, and they flew away.
The Elder and Betty next transported to a woods again, where a small
saucer and two of the Grays awaited them. They went on board, and
evidently flew up into the sky. Betty asked where they were going now,
and the Elder replied that they were going to see the One. Betty had to
give the purple orb to one of the Grays; she was very reluctant and
sorrowful to give it up. The craft came to a stop, and they emerged into
a place filled with bright light. Above them was the Great Door, which
was the source of the light. The Elder touched one of the Grays on the
shoulder and spoke to him, and he came along with the Elder and Betty as
they walked toward the Light. Their walk turned into a run, as they
moved swiftly into the pure radiance.
Betty was overwhelmed with the ecstasy of the One, which she
re-experienced on the hypnotist’s couch, and the several people
in attendance were all profoundly moved by the visible effects of her
transformation.
Betty, the Elder, and the Gray all turned into light-beings as they went
into the One. Each was a different hue: the Elder’s light-body
was pure white, the Gray alien’s was light blue, and
Betty’s was golden.
Betty said: "Oh, there is such love ... Oh, there is such peace ...
I’m just engulfed in light and blending into that light. Oh! ...
Oh, this is everything, everything, everything ... I cannot explain the
wonder and beauty and love and peace."
And then came a heartbroken cry as Betty realized that she would have to
"Oh, I’m going to have to go back. I have to go back for others
so that they too will see, will understand and know ..." And Betty, the
Elder, and the Gray emerged back out of the Light, turning back into
their normal forms in the process. The Elder gave three of the tiny
balls of light to Betty; then she was escorted into the saucer and taken
home by the Grays. She found her physical body sitting up on the side of
her bed next to her sleeping husband, and re-entered it. The experience
had ended. Raymond Fowler’s follow-up book is entitled  The
Andreasson Affair Phase Two - The Continuing Investigation of a
Woman’s Abduction by Alien Beings.
He is also author of the books The Allagash Abductions: Undeniable
Evidence of Alien Intervention and UFO Testament : Anatomy of an
Abductee.
Go Back
An Interview with
Betty (Andreasson) Luca
by Brent Raynes
Alternate Perceptions Magazine
Issue # 86 - December 2004
from  MysteriousAmerica Website
Highly respected and one of the better known UFO
“abductees,† the subject of five books by the
distinguished Raymond E. Fowler, Betty Ann  (Andreasson) Luca answers
our questions.
Furthermore, I suspect we’ll be hearing much more about Betty in
the near future. She mentioned that the situation for her and her
husband Bob is still ongoing, and that much of the information she
received and collected from the Beings over the years has been given
careful study, and that two researchers in particular have recently
managed to “decipher part of the work, and uncover some very
profound and important revelations.† 
In addition, in early December 2005 Betty will speak at the
Initially, back in 1967, you and members of your family suffered a very
disturbing series of memories revolving around a certain experience that
happened at your home in South Ashburnham, Massachusetts. For a good
number of years afterwards you tried to interest someone in the UFO
community to look into what had occurred, but it wasn’t until a
team of investigators headed by Raymond E. Fowler that your situation
got serious attention, correct? Can you describe what those early years
was like, and the effect that it had on you and your family?
Betty Ann Luca: When my 1967 UFO encounter happened, only a small
portion of memory was attained at the time by me, even though other
members of my family were present such as my father, mother and seven
children. However, three days after the experience, my eleven year old
daughter Becky came to me concerning short dreams she was having of the
unusual Beings in our house. Many years later my father had recall of
the initial visit from the Beings, but had not wanted to get involved
and was concerned for my welfare over me telling others about it. He was
on Disability and feared the government would hurt him somehow through
his Social Security.
This is how my UFO experience actually came to be public. There was a
Von Daniken article in the rag- tag paper called  The Enquirer. In it
he was reporting about ancient crafts. I was moved to write a letter to
the newspaper about Von Daniken’s story, and the Enquirer sent
my letter back and stamped it in red, UFO!
Which surprised me for I knew nothing about UFOs. Then a few years later
an article appeared in a local newspaper asking anyone that had a
sighting to contact a  Dr. Hynek of CUFOS, Center for UFO Studies. I
remembered the red stamped ufo on my return letter from the Enquirer and
thought to send him everything I had remembered of my odd experience. So
I sent the information I remembered of the silence, the blinking orange
red lights outside the pantry window, and description of the Beings
coming into my kitchen.
Dr. Hynek filed my letter away for two years until a Massachusetts
volunteer group of researchers wanting to study any humanoid UFO case in
their area, contacted CUFOS and requested if there were any such cases.
That’s when he sent my letter and address to them. I was
contacted by Jules Vailencourt by telephone, and he later visited us to
see if we were willing to find out what happened. And that’s how
it all began. Jules would drive us to Beverly, to the
hypnotist’s office. We were questioned concerning what we
remembered, then Dr. Edlestien hypnotized us, and after each session we
were questioned some more. Each session was about an hour or more and by
the time we returned home we were exhausted and at times had to take a
nap from the long day.
At times I was left in subliminal hypnosis and through the week began to
have very strong flash backs occur. Which scared me! I wanted to quit
and expressed it over the phone to Jules. He pleaded with me to please
continue. That others had experienced things that I had happen. Because
the memories I was remembering seemed like science fiction, I asked if
there was any way it could be checked or verified, to see if I was
imagining, lying, or going insane from the detailed experience flooding
my mind. If so I would need help!
This opened the door for lie detector tests to be used on both my
daughter and I, and spontaneous psychiatric checks to take place. Which
made the investigators happy, for they wanted to do this, but did not
know how to approach the issue without adding more stress to the
situation of what happened to us.
Later when the Andreasson Affair was published there was a whirlwind of
media coverage! It was exceptionally frantic when Raymond Fowler, my new
husband Bob, and I had to promote the A.A. book on radio and television,
and newspaper/magazine interviews across the country. All the attention
was scary. I was somewhat shy, and didn’t like to be known as
the lady who had a weird thing happen to her! In the earlier years after
I had sent the letter to Dr. Hynek I felt relieved and everything
returned to normal family life.
We had a mini farm with Molly our cow, calves, pigs and chickens and
large garden to care for, besides seven children and my first
husband’s father who’d had a stroke and was living with
us. And then after an anniversary party, my now ex-husband had too much
to drink, was incarcerated over night and disappeared the next day for
many months. That was when the investigation of my case began, and some
months later my two sons died in an automobile accident. Editor: As the
hypnotic exploration continued, repressed memories that extended back to
childhood events were also recovered. There were certainly many
startling revelations. Ray Fowler even began to recognize symptoms of
the UFO abduction experience within himself and his own family. How did
this evolving situation change things for you? Betty Ann Luca: Yes, Dr.
Edelstien tried to take me back to a childhood experience. And did break
through to an area that was dark. It was silent and three gray forms
stood motionless in a misty darkness. I became extremely fearful over
what I saw. Dr. Edelstein quickly pulled me out of hypnosis, and did not
want to pursue the experience any further than what had been recalled,
due to such a strong emotional response from me at the time. It would be
many years later that hypnotist Fred Max would manage to take me safely
back to my childhood encounters with the grey Beings.
As Ray Fowler began to recall his and his families own UFO experiences,
he wanted to delve deeper into the repressed memories, however his wife
was not comfortable with it. For she also had witnessed disturbing and
unusual things take place with Ray. Ray tried to comfort her misgivings
concerning the possibility of family involvement with the phenomena.
Just knowing she was fearful for her families safety, I felt
uncomfortable each time I had to call Ray and report another unusual
experience happening to us.
Editor: Now, all of these years later, where have the memories and
revelations taken you?
Betty Ann Luca: After all the experiences, exposure, and integration of
this other dimension of reality, I feel more aware of life, its
complexities, and how like a river it flows calmly onward to awaken the
human race toward spiritual harmony.
Editor: What do you possibly foresee as the future for humankind with
regards to the ongoing UFO contact phenomenon? Betty Ann Luca: The more
we learn of the unknown the greater understanding of who we are emerges.
Facing new and unusual experiences enhances our spiritual development.
Why, and what for, such contact takes place, may open a door to greater
knowledge of the hidden world that surrounds us. Man is resilient and
can survive as long as he recognizes there are certain forces that
exist, that may or may not be controlled, whether physical or spiritual,
good or bad. They rest in God’s hands, whose Will is greater
than ours. Editor: What role do you feel that your Christian faith has
played in your rising above the initial trauma of the 1967
“abduction† and the positive spiritual level which
you’ve arrived at since?
Betty Ann Luca: My Christian belief is and has been the most important
thing in my life, since I was sixteen, when I accepted Jesus Christ as
my personal Savior. I believed the Beings I experienced to be angelic.
Although the 1967 encounter was strange, and the grey Beings were not as
I envisioned an angel to look like. It did not frighten me when they
entered my home. For I knew and know I am in the Lord’s care. I
was at a positive level back then, and it has been enhanced now for many
years. First, through belief in the word of God. Second from all the
visitations. And third seeing most all the information the Beings have
related to me has been coming to pass.
Editor: Do you think that the UFO phenomenon can be adequately addressed
as a physical hard “nuts and bolts† science alone, or do
you feel that spirituality must also be included in this quest? Betty
Ann Luca: No, I don’t think the UFO phenomenon can be adequately
addressed alone as physical hard “nuts and boltsâ€
 science. When God made heaven and earth it was first spiritually
made. Heaven and earth was spirit. But it was without a form and was
void. There was actually no visible form and it was empty. It was only
after the spiritual image was created that a physical form followed
which was filled with substance to complete the work. When we see the
“nuts and bolts,† we are looking at the forms without
realizing it exists because of Spirit. Nothing can exist until it is
spirit.
The spiritual part of the UFO phenomena is not considered because we
look at the material form only. The spirit rests within the finished
product. Faith is spiritual. As the scripture says, faith is the
substance hoped for, the evidence not seen. Faith is the power of spirit
that creates form and substance into existence. Anything that has become
was first spirit, thought, word, or idea. Most definitely, in order to
understand the UFO phenomenon, spirituality must be present.
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